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Re: Those pesky Nazis
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2013, 07:58:44 PM »
Icecream sales go up in summer and so do shark attacks therefore icecream makes you taste better.

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Re: Those pesky Nazis
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2013, 09:33:52 PM »
http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/08/440hz-music-conspiracy-to-detune-good-vibrations-from-natural-432hz.html

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firstly it's not a conspiracy..

this is something that genuinely interests me, I only compose when A=432 Hz, A=444 Hz or A=423 Hz since learning about it. If you believe in what David Icke says he thinks we are just vibrational energy fields and so is everything around us therefore it affects us mentally and physically, so were nazis controlling how we feel and think on a subconscious level? I personally think so, they knew about mind control and it's well documented. I used to be sceptical until I started writing music using the alternative tunings, try it and see if it makes a difference before judging, it just FEELS right. Keep an open mind.

Out of interest LEW what do you think?
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Re: Those pesky Nazis
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2013, 10:05:45 PM »
you maybe want to read the comments below the article. a few of them are mental. some are from sensible people, the most prominent one of which is that the Nazis had nothing to do with A equaling 440hz.

yes it is a conspiracy and one of the more mental ones, at the moment second only to the US navy fighting Nazi UFO's in the antarctic in the late 40's on my list of mental things people think.

Anything David Icke says is a close third.

I suspect Lew was having a bit of a laugh. Unless you're being Ironic and i've completely misunderstood, I'm hoping i have

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Re: Those pesky Nazis
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2013, 11:48:24 PM »
It's a nice thought that we could be cosmically in-tune but really I just think it's something fun to think about.I didn't realize (until I did a quick Google) how many people are talking about A=432, though.

This one's a bit deeper http://omega432.com/432-music/the-importance-of-432hz-music

Now, tell me about these 1940s Nazi UFOs
« Last Edit: September 16, 2013, 11:50:09 PM by Lew »

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Re: Those pesky Nazis
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2013, 11:53:27 PM »
There you go  :P

http://www.examiner.com/article/did-us-navy-battle-ufos-protecting-nazi-antarctic-sanctuary-1947

also, look up Operation HighJump.

My favourite bit of that whole article is:

"While there is a possibility the report resulted from US disinformation fed to a known Soviet mole, the more likely explanation is that the report exposes the first known historical incident involving a battle between US naval forces and an unknown UFO force stationed near Antarctica".

Really? A battle with UFO's is the more likely explanation from those 2 options?

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Re: Those pesky Nazis
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2013, 12:05:32 AM »
haha I'll give that a proper read tomorow. I actually have a family friend that genuinely believes that people with blue eyes are from Ickes reptile elite, it's a trip.

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Re: Those pesky Nazis
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2013, 12:15:21 AM »
Ok, before letting this thread escalate into an ultimate conspiracy theory debate, how does one tune to 432hz anyway? I read stuff like this before, but from my understanding all ordinary tuners you buy nowadays are set to 440hz, so what do I need to do to tune my guitar in 432hz so I can hear a difference and decide for myself  :P

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Re: Those pesky Nazis
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2013, 12:27:12 AM »
you maybe want to read the comments below the article. a few of them are mental. some are from sensible people, the most prominent one of which is that the Nazis had nothing to do with A equaling 440hz.

yes it is a conspiracy and one of the more mental ones, at the moment second only to the US navy fighting Nazi UFO's in the antarctic in the late 40's on my list of mental things people think.

Anything David Icke says is a close third.

I suspect Lew was having a bit of a laugh. Unless you're being Ironic and i've completely misunderstood, I'm hoping i have

ha it's quite mild compared to most conspiracies, I'm not even going to go there...

the best way to prove a 'theory' of any kind is to actually try it, tune in to A=432Hz and compare it to A=440Hz. What do you prefer? I bet you've never tried it
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Re: Those pesky Nazis
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2013, 12:31:21 AM »
most tuners have a function to change the reference pitch, like peterson, TT's and i imagine pitchblacks etc.

You won't be able to decide for yourself though. the idea has already been planted (a bit like Inception), the only real way you could decide something like that is if someone played 2 pieces of music to you blind folded and said which do you prefer. there would also be a control group etc etc. IF you or a group consistently picked the 432 as the ref freq that made you feel better about the universe (this is assuming the question was something along the lines of "which of these makes you feel better about the universe") but not knowing which piece of music was 432 or 440, and preferably both groups wouldn't really know much about music, then this whole thing might hold some water.

If you knew in advance that it was an experiment designed to prove that 432 is a fundamental frequency in tune with the universe, then it defeats the purpose of the experiment, because it's instantly going to lead to subjective interpretation based on the sunbjects propensity toward skeptical or wooly thinking.

and you basically already know why you're trying it out, so whatever your opinion is, for or against, is biased in advance.

phew.. experimental psychology considerations are a b***h
« Last Edit: September 17, 2013, 12:48:34 AM by tekbow »

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Re: Those pesky Nazis
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2013, 12:35:20 AM »
you maybe want to read the comments below the article. a few of them are mental. some are from sensible people, the most prominent one of which is that the Nazis had nothing to do with A equaling 440hz.

yes it is a conspiracy and one of the more mental ones, at the moment second only to the US navy fighting Nazi UFO's in the antarctic in the late 40's on my list of mental things people think.

Anything David Icke says is a close third.

I suspect Lew was having a bit of a laugh. Unless you're being Ironic and i've completely misunderstood, I'm hoping i have

ha it's quite mild compared to most conspiracies, I'm not even going to go there...

the best way to prove a 'theory' of any kind is to actually try it, tune in to A=432Hz and compare it to A=440Hz. What do you prefer? I bet you've never tried it

you mean hypothesis. i did actually, but as covered in my post above, i already had a bias against it based on my skepticism against pseudoscience. did it sound more tuneful? sweeter? possibly, or not. did it make me feel like the universe came into balance, or, significantly better about myself than if i played the same thing in A=440? they just sounded like the same piece played in different pitches.

Also, Dr Leonard Horowitz was a dentist (probably a good one) who is widely regarded as a quack in virtually anything else that he decides to comment on. It's a classic argument from authority.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2013, 12:44:12 AM by tekbow »

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Re: Those pesky Nazis
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2013, 12:56:36 AM »
you maybe want to read the comments below the article. a few of them are mental. some are from sensible people, the most prominent one of which is that the Nazis had nothing to do with A equaling 440hz.

yes it is a conspiracy and one of the more mental ones, at the moment second only to the US navy fighting Nazi UFO's in the antarctic in the late 40's on my list of mental things people think.

Anything David Icke says is a close third.

I suspect Lew was having a bit of a laugh. Unless you're being Ironic and i've completely misunderstood, I'm hoping i have

ha it's quite mild compared to most conspiracies, I'm not even going to go there...

the best way to prove a 'theory' of any kind is to actually try it, tune in to A=432Hz and compare it to A=440Hz. What do you prefer? I bet you've never tried it

you mean hypothesis. i did actually, but as covered in my post above, i already had a bias against it based on my skepticism against pseudoscience. did it sound more tuneful? sweeter? possibly, or not. did it make me feel like the universe came into balance, or, significantly better about myself than if i played the same thing in A=440? they just sounded like the same piece played in different pitches.

Also, Dr Leonard Horowitz was a dentist (probably a good one) who is widely regarded as a quack in virtually anything else that he decides to comment on. It's a classic argument from authority.

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Re: Those pesky Nazis
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2013, 01:06:54 AM »
standard pitch 4 lyfe init

i feel like i should be retorting, but have no idea as to what...

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Re: Those pesky Nazis
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2013, 08:56:23 AM »
Ok, you lost me a bit with the nazi bit, but the general idea is something I am willing to give a chance or at least think about.
Since different minor key seems differntly sad and such why would I discount this straight away.

Unfortunentally it is hard to prove. If anyone has some better info on it give it here =)

Until then I will keep the possibility in my mind with caution but also just try tuning one of my acousitics to 432Hz. Canīt do harm....

Edit: Just had a go at tuning my cheapy acoustic down and man...I donīt like it so far. Maybe I just need to get used to it, but it is what I actually should have expected. It sounds wrong, detuned and such. I mean Machine Head use this to make their sound more evil, but when you go for nice folky stuff it just sounds wrong..
Anyway, Iīll give it at least a couple of extra songs.^^

Edit II: Ok it gets better. Will do more testing. Could be interresting. Soon I will have one acoustic in E 440, one in E 432 and one in Eb 440. Will be interresting to see which I prefer and which I can sing easiest to.
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