BKP Juggernauts ?

[littleredguitars2]

Do you happen to know, how the alnicos and the ceramic magnets are assembled inside of the bridge pickup?
Are those two identical coils consisting of ceramic magnets with alnico parts (or the other way around), or does each coil have a different magnet built in, resulting in a completely different module?

Im wondering, if i could use the pickup as two completely different coils, when i play them in split.

i really doubt one side is alnico and one is ceramic but i could be wrong. i would ask ben or tim directly by emailing them

[ericsabbath]

Do you happen to know, how the alnicos and the ceramic magnets are assembled inside of the bridge pickup?
Are those two identical coils consisting of ceramic magnets with alnico parts (or the other way around), or does each coil have a different magnet built in, resulting in a completely different module?

Im wondering, if i could use the pickup as two completely different coils, when i play them in split.

i really doubt one side is alnico and one is ceramic but i could be wrong. i would ask ben or tim directly by emailing them

apparently, a centered  alnico 5 bar (probably 4mm thick like the ceramic models) and a pair of ceramic 8 flankers (as in the aftermath and painkiller), as the website description suggests

what actually is most appealing to me is that it has symmetrically wound coils
I wonder if it has poly or enamel coated wire (or formvar)

sounds like a tamed and more balanced aftermath/rebel yell hybrid without the upper mid spike and a smoother response
and that's exactly what was missing in the bkp line, in my opinion
I really wanna try that, and I'm not even into hot pickups anymore

[littleredguitars2]

yeah i'm quite interested in it as well. i dont NEED new pickups in one of my other strats but i'm thinking of just trying one out one of these days

[Lucas]

To my taste the last 2 videos (Misha and Fluffy man 8)) recently uploaded are not as much convincing as audio samples presented on BKP website.
The more I dig into Juggernauts the more cautious I get. If neck pickup does really sound as good as it does on the 'Heavy Lead Demo' BKP audio clip Juggernauts are true winners, but Im just wondering in the bridge pickup would be tight enough to cope with e.g fast stacatto riffing Hetfield style or turn into complete mess?

[4Eyes]

without hearing the same guitar, through the same rig with pickups being the only difference I really cannot say "wow ,that pickups sound amazing". all I can say from those videos is "well, that sounds great as it was always when misha/nolly recorded something". but nothing THAT special I couldn't get with other BKP contemporary pickups. usually it's something that only guitar player himself can describe and it's not that noticeable in the recording as some of people here said they can hear from those videos.

having VHII in the neck and reading that the goal was basically "less high end" with bridge pickup my GAS disappeared very quickly and it seems that bridge pickup wouldn't be as much good choice as PK was for me - I like brighter guitar sound. PK  is considered as too much bright or someone say harsh sounding pickup but it fits to my guitar with lots of low end very well and I can't say it's harsh sounding.

but maybe I'll give bridge pickup a chance when I'll have some free money

[ericsabbath]

Im just wondering in the bridge pickup would be tight enough to cope with e.g fast stacatto riffing Hetfield style or turn into complete mess?

I've never played a BKP humbucker that couldn't do that
and I had A LOT of them
and we're talking about a bulb signature pickup  :lol:
I believe James had a duncan invader on master of puppets era, and THAT pup is a mess

[ericsabbath]

having VHII in the neck and reading that the goal was basically "less high end" with bridge pickup my GAS disappeared very quickly and it seems that bridge pickup wouldn't be as much good choice as PK was for me - I like brighter guitar sound. PK  is considered as too much bright or someone say harsh sounding pickup but it fits to my guitar with lots of low end very well and I can't say it's harsh sounding.

well, a painkiller is a painkiller
and it's the best at what it does
I wouldn't trade my riff raff for anything either
finding the right pickup a particular guitar and pair of ears can be long and costly task
if you already did it, no reason to bother, unless it's for another guitar
I really wanna try the jugs, but they definitely wouldn't replace the riff raff/mule set in my main guitar

[pagan7]

Tone is everything when playing a guitar , right ? , whatever style of music is your thing or whatever  feel you are aiming for and  we all know that fitting a BKP is the best starting point for transmitting  what you're capable of with your fingers , to your speakers of choice , so is what happens between the pickups and the speakers , ie , tone and volume controls on your guitars , effects and amps.
My fave BKP's are my set of Painkillers which some describe as harsh , and they can be if spine disecting tones are your thing , but rolling back on the volume and tone and amp gain and they can do flutey jazz and chicken pickin Tele sounds as well as a lot of other styles in between, which is why none of my guitars have just a pickup selector or a kill switch and no master volume and tone controls . All my Ibby RG's have been fitted with dual pots for individual volume and tone control of each pickup, 3 on my HSH ones and to my ears , these allow me to extract the full palate of tones and dynamics that any BKP offers , along with switches for coil splitting , phase reversal etc.
I'm sold on the Juggernauts , especially the bridge version and they'll  be on my next order along with a Stockholm HS90 bridge.
All power to tone control  :D

[GuitarIv]

Tone is everything when playing a guitar , right ? , whatever style of music is your thing or whatever  feel you are aiming for and  we all know that fitting a BKP is the best starting point for transmitting  what you're capable of with your fingers , to your speakers of choice , so is what happens between the pickups and the speakers , ie , tone and volume controls on your guitars , effects and amps.
My fave BKP's are my set of Painkillers which some describe as harsh , and they can be if spine disecting tones are your thing , but rolling back on the volume and tone and amp gain and they can do flutey jazz and chicken pickin Tele sounds as well as a lot of other styles in between, which is why none of my guitars have just a pickup selector or a kill switch and no master volume and tone controls . All my Ibby RG's have been fitted with dual pots for individual volume and tone control of each pickup, 3 on my HSH ones and to my ears , these allow me to extract the full palate of tones and dynamics that any BKP offers , along with switches for coil splitting , phase reversal etc.
I'm sold on the Juggernauts , especially the bridge version and they'll  be on my next order along with a Stockholm HS90 bridge.
All power to tone control  :D

I can only second that. I use my Painkiller mainly for brutal, harsh and grinding metal, but when I turn down the Volume and the Tone Control on my guitar I can even do some blues  :P

[lamp]

A little more information - this is Ben's reply to my question as to how it would perform in a Fender style guitar in standard tuning:

"They will work very well with a standard Fender guitar. The bridge is hot and tight and modern in feel, but not harsh as the massive alnico v magnet warms up the tone slightly. The neck is pretty fat and full and will also be fine with a brighter guitar."

[lyonk55]

Really interested in these. I'm considering a maple/swamp ash neck-through guitar sometime soon and these sound like they might fit that well, especially since my Engl has highs and presence to spare.

[littleredguitars2]

The news about them being good in fenders is really making me want to try one.  I really don't have much of a metal guitar and while this isn't strictly a metal pickup,  it is definitely More than capable

[bulb]

Here is a quick little test that Rick Graham whipped up after installing his set, https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=647937618559958&set=vb.100000311770716&type=2&theater

[littleredguitars2]

the link doesnt work for me

[lamp]

You can get to it through his page:  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rick-Graham/242827524717?fref=ts