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need advice about replacing a gibson 57 classic in my sg bridge.
« on: September 20, 2013, 06:44:58 PM »
i got a new 2013 sg standard i like it,but the bridge pickup sounded shrill on high e string from the 12 fret down,i tried to replace the cap from 0.22 to 0.47 it took some of the shrillness,but lost clearity\harmonics... its just not "it" for a bridge pickup...

i have a unused cold sweat here,should i try it?
or should look for somthing else?

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Re: need advice about replacing a gibson 57 classic in my sg bridge.
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2013, 12:40:57 AM »
What style of music or particular tone are you after??
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Re: need advice about replacing a gibson 57 classic in my sg bridge.
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2013, 12:44:24 AM »
The CS is scooped and has quite some highs, though it's often recommend for SG's bec they bring life in those big lumps of mahogany.
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Re: need advice about replacing a gibson 57 classic in my sg bridge.
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2013, 03:59:32 AM »
Try it.  The SG is choosy about pickups but by all accounts the CS is unproblematic in them.  I've heard the same regarding the Miracle Man, Warpig, Rebel Yell, and C-Bomb but I've yet to try any of them in an SG.  I've only tried the A-Bomb, which is great for aggressive punk and hardcore tones but otherwise I've found to be quite limited, despite it's versatile reputation and the occassional good review of it in an atypical SG. That said I'm thinking of putting the A-Bomb into one of those full-pickguard SG Juniors set up specifically for punk purposes because it's great for that.  It clashes with the CS neck though so I find they sound a bit off.  If I were to put a neck pickup with the A-Bomb again it would be a Nailbomb neck.

Actually I'm just about to replace the A-Bomb in my SG with a Cold Sweat.  It's a well-recommended pickup for SGs.  I have the Cold Sweat neck pickup in my SG already and that gives nice cleans (both single notes and open chords) and shred type tones for leads.  I don't use it for distorted rhythm playing though, even though sometimes it sounds better than the A-Bomb for specific sounds it still sounds like a neck pickup, and thus not great for riffing.

To give you an idea of the kinds of tones I want out of this SG and what BKP recommended it to me for, is a whole range of metal and rock stuff from Thin Lizzy through Judas Priest to Slayer and Celtic Frost.  Although Slayer switched to EMGs when they went to ESP endorsements after Seasons in the Abyss the pickups they used on their classic early albums were closer in character to the Cold Sweat, i.e. hot passives like Di Marzio SDs. The two pickups that come closest to that in the BKP range are the Cold Sweat and the Holy Diver, but the latter has not had positive reviews in SGs so I went for the CS.

The Miracle Man can cover the heavier end of that range and into Warpig territory.  The Warpig is something I have in another guitar that I use only for downtuned stuff in C# standard and below.  It does a good 'Children of the Grave' Sabbath sound.  I found that the A-Bomb is too harsh sounding for Sabbath.
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Re: need advice about replacing a gibson 57 classic in my sg bridge.
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2013, 11:09:33 AM »
thank you guys.

its going to be my main guitar,so its going to be for blues to metal...
i wasent looking for a specific sound,just for less harsh sound on the high e

i replaced the 57 with the CS that i had,and it worked,its sounds alot smoother then 57 on the high e string


now i just have to order nickel covers....  :D

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Re: need advice about replacing a gibson 57 classic in my sg bridge.
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2013, 11:13:40 AM »
Good to hear.  I've got to put mine in sometime this week.

I ordered chrome covers (like the original ones for my SG) when got the first set.  In order to be able to tell the new Cold Sweat from the A-bomb, I had the BKP etch put on the CS.  Looks great!  Although I do think that advertising like that should be free of charge ;)

My SG Standard is my main guitar too, so that's why I wanted something more 'mainstream' in it.  My Explorer looks and sounds nasty.  I need to get an appropriately punky looking guitar for the A-bomb
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Re: need advice about replacing a gibson 57 classic in my sg bridge.
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2013, 11:22:07 AM »
yeah...i dont know why they dont put lables with pickup names :D...
i wasent sure it was a cold sweat untill i measurd and compared it to the details on the site

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Re: need advice about replacing a gibson 57 classic in my sg bridge.
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2013, 11:27:09 AM »
With the covers BKP actually ask you to send the pickup to them and they installed them and repot the pickup for you.  If you just shove a cover on yourself it voids the lifetime warranty
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Re: need advice about replacing a gibson 57 classic in my sg bridge.
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2013, 11:41:11 AM »
just looked at the Warranty Information,and i not the original purchaser,
so life time warrenty doesnt concern me.

and it doesnt look so hard putting the cover.

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Re: need advice about replacing a gibson 57 classic in my sg bridge.
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2013, 11:51:25 AM »
I agree with you guys it would be a nig help when BKP labels the pickups. Now you have to do with a name on the box.
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