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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2013, 01:01:50 AM »
yeah when i was younger i always steered away from the p90 gibsons. not sure why. never really knew what they were even capable of.

You should try an SG some day, great guitar, although that said it might take you a while to get used to the neck, which has a 12" radius.  I find Strats interesting but I am put off by the rounder fretboard, although there is one signature model that apparently has a 12" radius like a Gibson.  I like the thinner profile necks like the C shape and '60s profile necks, but it's what you get used to.  A lot of the more recent SGs (especially the cheaper ones like the Faded) have '50s style necks which feel more 'Fender' to me.

i've had 2 SGs over the last 10 years. both gibson standards. and i love the way they play and feel but they were just unreliable. i couldnt get either of them to ever stay in tune. i tried everything. so i just gave up. besides, i prefer strats mostly these days anyway.
I think you should give the sinner some thought too mate.

I wouldnt go for the rebel yell if you didnt like the nailbomb its like its less angry relative with less bottom end too. I always thought the nailbomb in a thin 'proper strat' probably wouldnt work for the heavy bottom end.....ill trust your judgement.

you really think i wouldnt like the RY? and i've definitely given the sinner thought. maybe somewhere down the line but obviously i'd need a humbucker in the LP. maybe the stockholm in that one. i dont know.
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2013, 01:02:54 AM »
I think youd like the rebel yell its fantastic but not in a strat i mean.  If the nailbomb didnt deliver the bass the rebel yell will be even worse.
In a les paul it sounds great

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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2013, 01:06:05 AM »
I think youd like the rebel yell its fantastic but not in strat i mean

yeah exactly. i bet i'd like the nailbomb more in an LP than a strat but i want to try something different. people say the RY is the way to go for what i asked for. from people on the forum to ben with bkp. but i think the stockholm might be the way to go in the strat. the sinner would be one i'd like too i think but as lame as it sounds, i have 3 strats, all with one humbucker and one volume knob and i like it like that. i have my LP and 335 for versatility i guess. but i definitely gave thought to a sinner strat
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2013, 01:09:03 AM »
I think youd like the rebel yell its fantastic but not in strat i mean

yeah exactly. i bet i'd like the nailbomb more in an LP than a strat but i want to try something different. people say the RY is the way to go for what i asked for. from people on the forum to ben with bkp. but i think the stockholm might be the way to go in the strat. the sinner would be one i'd like too i think but as lame as it sounds, i have 3 strats, all with one humbucker and one volume knob and i like it like that. i have my LP and 335 for versatility i guess. but i definitely gave thought to a sinner strat

Im sorry im confusing my self here! People have recommended the rebel yell in a strat or a les paul?

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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2013, 01:20:26 AM »
they recommended the RY in my les paul.

when i was originally looking for a pickup for this strat, i was told that i should go with the holy diver. but last minute i heard some nailbomb clips that made me think it was the one for me. but it wasnt quite for me. maybe the holy diver would do good for the strat but i think the stockholm would suit it better plus i want to try something new.
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2013, 01:24:28 AM »
i've had 2 SGs over the last 10 years. both gibson standards. and i love the way they play and feel but they were just unreliable. i couldnt get either of them to ever stay in tune. i tried everything. so i just gave up.

It was most likely the nut.  The culprit is usually the G-string, and it is caused by the combination of a rather thin neck (which flexes as you tune other strings, making tuning more onerous) and the angle at which the strings go from the nut to the tuning pegs.  A lot of people change tuners and wonder why it is still out of tune, when the problem is the nut.  I found that my original set of strings stayed in tune well, but when I changed them the new ones did not.  I asked the local tech about this and he pointed out that Gibson set them up with a nut lubricant, and that I would need to lubricate the nut every string change.  So I bought some Big Bends Nut Sauce, reputed to be the best nut lubricant on the market. I only changed the strings last night we'll see how that goes!

A friend of mine has the same problem with a Les Paul. The D string is almost as bad.

RYs for Les Pauls.

No idea on the best humbucker for a Strat.  Personally I would go with a single coil, either P90 or Fender type

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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2013, 01:38:30 AM »
i've had 2 SGs over the last 10 years. both gibson standards. and i love the way they play and feel but they were just unreliable. i couldnt get either of them to ever stay in tune. i tried everything. so i just gave up.

It was most likely the nut.  The culprit is usually the G-string, and it is caused by the combination of a rather thin neck (which flexes as you tune other strings, making tuning more onerous) and the angle at which the strings go from the nut to the tuning pegs.  A lot of people change tuners and wonder why it is still out of tune, when the problem is the nut.  I found that my original set of strings stayed in tune well, but when I changed them the new ones did not.  I asked the local tech about this and he pointed out that Gibson set them up with a nut lubricant, and that I would need to lubricate the nut every string change.  So I bought some Big Bends Nut Sauce, reputed to be the best nut lubricant on the market. I only changed the strings last night we'll see how that goes!

A friend of mine has the same problem with a Les Paul. The D string is almost as bad.

RYs for Les Pauls.

No idea on the best humbucker for a Strat.  Personally I would go with a single coil, either P90 or Fender type

Yeah the nut may have been my issue as well.  Oh well.  They are long gone.  But my les Paul stays I'm tune fairly Well.  Gah. I have so many things I want to do but I'm unable to do them right now because I'm waiting for my tele and some pedals to sell
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2013, 01:50:09 AM »
I wouldn't be surprised to find that the SGs and LPs with thicker necks stay in tune better than the '60s profile ones, just because a change in string tension (from the string eventually easing into its proper spot after you tune it) is more likely to twist the neck slightly and throw the others out of tune. If your LP has a chubby neck that might be the difference.

Personally I hate thick necks on guitars, and avoid the '50s style necks like the plague.  The neck on my Explorer is fat enough for me ... once you get used to the '60s neck on an SG you don't want anything else.  That said, I've heard guys rave about their baseball bat necks on their Teles, about how lucky they were to get one with that neck etc.  Horses for courses
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2013, 01:56:39 AM »
my LP is actually a 60s neck. its a les paul classic which was discontinued but from what i remember, they gave the 50s or 60s neck option. i've always wanted to try the 50s neck though. i hate very thin necks but i've never tried a BIG one that i know of. i used to have a gibson explorer standard but i dont remember what neck it had on it. but i liked it a lot.
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2013, 02:00:38 AM »
I don't like the thin but wide necks.  I found the SG neck a bit hard to get used to after the Explorer, but then I quickly started to prefer it.  My Explorer has a thicker neck than the SG and is maybe wider at the nut.  It's not a thick neck though, probably more like what you have on your Les Paul.
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2013, 02:01:12 AM »
Sorry I misunderstood the rebel yell will sound fantastic in a les paul but its highly likely it wouldnt sound any good at all in a strat as i was saying.

Only other thing I can suggest based on what youve said is the crawler then but im basing my opnion on other peoples comments and clips.

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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2013, 02:06:37 AM »
Yeah the crawler is What originally drew me to bare knuckle.  A guy on YouTube named matt gear has an hh strat with crawlers and they sound amazing
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2013, 06:10:25 PM »
maybe i'm a bit late on the thread but anyways..

If you think the stockolm is too much for you, and you still need a HS p90, I beleave you can ask Tim to make a Supermassive as a HS p90... A friend of mine has a Sotckolm as a regular p90 and he said they can do the other way as well... I think the supermassive has a bit less gain, but the bottom end is fuller and more defined. Kinda a polished stockolm for that to say... they are VERY close sounding though.

I'm intending to build a custom jazzmaster/telemaster guitar with 2 Supermassives on it... I want to get that modern grunge rock tones such as early soundgarden, mudhoney and even rage against the machine... I think the SM does it in spades.
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2013, 07:25:29 PM »
i definitely want something thats still high output. so i bet the stockholm will be fine the way it is.

i havent decided if i will make it an HSS setup or not but if i did, which single coils would you guys suggest? i definitely want to stay modern sounding.
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Re: Stockholm HBSP90 bridge
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2013, 10:30:45 PM »
i definitely want something thats still high output. so i bet the stockholm will be fine the way it is.

i havent decided if i will make it an HSS setup or not but if i did, which single coils would you guys suggest? i definitely want to stay modern sounding.

Trilogies will make it a balanced set.
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