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JimmyMoorby

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Fuzz pedal suggestions
« on: October 30, 2013, 05:33:20 PM »
I've never been into fuzz pedals before but as i've got into playing my strat more and more and playing SRV, Hendrix type stuff ive really wanted to get a big strat sound and I can only seem to conjure polite and pretty tones out of it at the monent which is cool but I always prefer an in your face  sound.

I know tone is in the fingers but it seems like a fuzz pedal might help and i'm thinking thick Blackmore, Hendrix, SRV, Robin Trower type tones and if theres some thing which can give even more massive low end and a bit more ott then all the better.

The wampler leviathan has caught my attention but im really open to suggestions as this is very new territory as im a fuzz virgin!   

Just to be clear this is for single coil/strats.  Cheers

Edit - SRV is prolly misleading.......ignore!
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Re: Fuzz pedal suggestions
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2013, 05:59:46 PM »
Thickening strats up with fuzz, that would be a big muff. As to which, that depends on just how thick you want it... At the Gilmour end of the spectrum there is the Cornish G2 and Skreddy P19. At the other end there's the likes of the Skreddy ?Lady (possibly a bit extreme in this case) and a whole load of stuff in between.
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Re: Fuzz pedal suggestions
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2013, 06:21:12 PM »
well, at least three of the guys you mentioned used fuzzfaces, Blackmore just turned his amps up really loud (200w Marshall Majors?)

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Re: Fuzz pedal suggestions
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2013, 06:26:37 PM »
Well I guess I want some thing that can definitely do hendrix and blackmore stuff really well but with a massive wall of sound to it so really nothing is to extreme so long as it can pull off the vintage stuff too if that makes sense.....

Im curious as to how much you could thicken up a strat with a pedal
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Re: Fuzz pedal suggestions
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2013, 08:02:53 PM »
Well I guess I want some thing that can definitely do hendrix and blackmore stuff really well but with a massive wall of sound to it so really nothing is to extreme so long as it can pull off the vintage stuff too if that makes sense.....

Im curious as to how much you could thicken up a strat with a pedal

This going to sound like I'm being an awkward bugger.. but I'm really not.. Fuzz is not about big walls of sound (well... yeah, it can be but..), and there's more than few types of fuzz, and they all sound different. Blackmore didn't use fuzz, and a fuzz pedal isn't going to give you that, thats a cranked powerful, ready to sh*t itself non master volume marshall amp.. I believe he did use a treble booster into it sometimes, but that just adds grit, and isn't actually a treble booster, but more an upper midrange freq booster. but the main component there is a really crazy loud marshall..

With Hendrix and SRV, they used Fuzzfaces into, again, crazy loud master volume marshalls (in SRV's case for his higher gain stuff).

Walls of sound, of the type you're thinking of have one component in common. Really loud non MV amps. the best way to get there add resaonable volumes is a low wattage marshall style amp, cranked, with a FF. and probably at least a 2x12. Those guys were pushing serious air.

Another important element to the sound of Hendrix and SRV was the clean up of a FF with use of the guitar volume. you get a really nice sparkly smokey clean with a bit of grit to it. FF's are also very bottom endy.

Fuzz is actually quite a subtle thing, it can be very versatile and very hard to work with.
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Re: Fuzz pedal suggestions
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2013, 08:58:50 PM »
Well I guess I want some thing that can definitely do hendrix and blackmore stuff really well but with a massive wall of sound to it so really nothing is to extreme so long as it can pull off the vintage stuff too if that makes sense.....

Im curious as to how much you could thicken up a strat with a pedal

This going to sound like I'm being an awkward bugger.. but I'm really not.. Fuzz is not about big walls of sound (well... yeah, it can be but..), and there's more than few types of fuzz, and they all sound different. Blackmore didn't use fuzz, and a fuzz pedal isn't going to give you that, thats a cranked powerful, ready to sh*t itself non master volume marshall amp.. I believe he did use a treble booster into it sometimes, but that just adds grit, and isn't actually a treble booster, but more an upper midrange freq booster. but the main component there is a really crazy loud marshall..

With Hendrix and SRV, they used Fuzzfaces into, again, crazy loud master volume marshalls (in SRV's case for his higher gain stuff).

Walls of sound, of the type you're thinking of have one component in common. Really loud non MV amps. the best way to get there add resaonable volumes is a low wattage marshall style amp, cranked, with a FF. and probably at least a 2x12. Those guys were pushing serious air.

Another important element to the sound of Hendrix and SRV was the clean up of a FF with use of the guitar volume. you get a really nice sparkly smokey clean with a bit of grit to it. FF's are also very bottom endy.

Fuzz is actually quite a subtle thing, it can be very versatile and very hard to work with.

Youre not being awkard I know what youre saying.

I know SRV had a fuzz face but he had a very lo-gain tone any way so I shouldnt have said him and I knew Blackmore didnt use any fuzz pedals (Im not sure what gear he used other than marshalls/engl and strats/gibsons).  The only fuzz guy is Hendrix.

Its hard to explain exactly what im after but im sure pedals are the way to go.  Sure pedals can only get you so close if at all but there are obviously pedals which will get you your own sound or a sound close to another guitarist e.g disortion/overdrive pedals based on actual amps.

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Re: Fuzz pedal suggestions
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2013, 09:19:54 PM »
Good luck on your search Jimmy!

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Re: Fuzz pedal suggestions
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2013, 11:22:33 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNJYBOj7Cfc

i always wanted a fuzz pedal that could get me sounds similar to the second half of this video. granted, i know he has them built into his guitars because manson guitars are awesome. and i assume he's using mississippi queens in this guitar as well. since those are the only p90s of bk's that i know he uses
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Re: Fuzz pedal suggestions
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2013, 12:12:57 AM »
i always wanted a fuzz pedal that could get me sounds similar to the second half of this video. granted, i know he has them built into his guitars because manson guitars are awesome. and i assume he's using mississippi queens in this guitar as well. since those are the only p90s of bk's that i know he uses
Well Belamy is known for using the Zvex Fuzz Factory. Like with just about all fuzzes it is pretty easy to clone too, build one myself and might do another modded version sometime.

The Fuzzfactory is really cool, can give you a good variety of fuzz sounds, from classic velcro to the very extreme when you start to turn down the stability up to self arpegiating 8 bit stuff. I really like it. I however do not think that it is the most classic fuzz so for JimmyMorby it might not be the best choice, but for you littleredguitars2 the Fuzzfactorty would likely be the ticket.

This reminds me that I wanne build more fuzz pedals. Some Devi Ever stuff mostly. Legends of Fuzz for example. Awesome lowfi stuff. Lots of that to do....muahahahaha.
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2013, 01:21:27 AM »
MXR made these limited hendrix fuzzface, octavio, and univibe pedals last year.

I don't know where to get the univibe but i do know someone with the other two in stock, and at lower prices than you'll find on ebay.  You'd have to have them sent from Australia and pay duties (if any) though.

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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2013, 01:57:40 AM »
i always wanted a fuzz pedal that could get me sounds similar to the second half of this video. granted, i know he has them built into his guitars because manson guitars are awesome. and i assume he's using mississippi queens in this guitar as well. since those are the only p90s of bk's that i know he uses
Well Belamy is known for using the Zvex Fuzz Factory. Like with just about all fuzzes it is pretty easy to clone too, build one myself and might do another modded version sometime.

The Fuzzfactory is really cool, can give you a good variety of fuzz sounds, from classic velcro to the very extreme when you start to turn down the stability up to self arpegiating 8 bit stuff. I really like it. I however do not think that it is the most classic fuzz so for JimmyMorby it might not be the best choice, but for you littleredguitars2 the Fuzzfactorty would likely be the ticket.

This reminds me that I wanne build more fuzz pedals. Some Devi Ever stuff mostly. Legends of Fuzz for example. Awesome lowfi stuff. Lots of that to do....muahahahaha.

Sweet I will have to check them out
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Re: Fuzz pedal suggestions
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2013, 02:20:56 AM »
For the Marshall wall of sound you could also check out their own Guv'nor pedal .
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Re: Fuzz pedal suggestions
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2013, 06:18:16 AM »
The clips I've heard of the Wampler Velvet Fuzz sounds really good. Check it out.
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Re: Fuzz pedal suggestions
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2013, 10:16:19 AM »
Hi,

try Wampler Velver Fuzz. It came aout not that long time ago and to my ears it sounds fantastic. Never tried one, but you can go many directions from Gilmour to Hednrix and beyond.

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Re: Fuzz pedal suggestions
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2013, 10:47:04 AM »
Wampler were the the first brand I thought off just because im so impressed with the wampler pinnacle I own.

The velvet fuzz sounds great but having heard the wampler leviathan it seems to do vintage tones extremely well and the even more ott stuff too saying that wampler are on the expensive side which is a drawback......

Im gonna keep my eye out for a lot of these suggestions on flea bay as the more well known brands like mxr and marshall will have a good re sale value.