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Re: In search of the right BKP set
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2013, 02:15:43 PM »
What would be the main difference between bridge Cbomb and bridge Cold Sweat? EQ charts are quite similar (CS might be a bit brighter)?

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Re: In search of the right BKP set
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2013, 02:27:44 PM »
The Nailbomb would be 'hairier'  and 'rougher' sounding than the Cold Sweat if my alnico version is anything to go by.  Differences would be in the type of wire and the way it is wound, symmetry, etc.

Both the ceramic Nailbomb and the Cold Sweat work pretty well in the same applications, just that they have different sounds. It might also be the case that the EQ is only very approximate, and some frequency ranges (e.g., mid-mids, or low-mids) might differ within the category 'mids'

Listening to the clips is probably a better guide as to the sound differences, as they are recorded in the same guitar with just a pickup change.  There are clips for the C-Bomb.
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Re: In search of the right BKP set
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2013, 02:52:43 PM »
Richard, your clips where very helpful (and rockin' \,,/), so i'll go for the rebel yell. Though I would like to ask something first:

1: Does the bass get out of control? (in the nailbomb it does)
2: Does the palm muting sound close to the video I posted?

Thanks once again for your detailed replies. <3
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I don't do a lot of palm muting and I always play in standard tuning so maybe someone else can chime in. Many people comment that the RY doesn't have a lot of bass. I usually play through a 1 x 12 open backed combo and the RY has more than enough low end for my needs but it's very controlled and articulate. At rehearsals I often play through a Marshall half stack and this gives PLENTY of low end thump. To quote Steve Stevens ' It's so full of clear bottom and perfect pick attack.'

My main guitar for years was an SG with a JB in the bridge. I was very happy with it but since I've got the RYs I don't use that guitar at all. I played a gig with another band last year and ,on a whim, I took my SG. I wasn't happy with what I was hearing. The low end of the JB gets flubby very quickly when I crank the gain. The RY can produce the same singing tone in the highs but the low end behaves MUCH better.

This is a good clip:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX7Fbw5refI

This one let's you hear the low end:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-ppjENE6J8


I'm surprised nobody's mentioned this yet but the RY is very re-active to height adjustments. Small turns of the screw can produce very different results. Be prepared to spend a lot of time experimenting, it really is worth it. Good luck and keep us posted with the results.
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Re: In search of the right BKP set
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2013, 07:59:13 PM »
On count of the RY low end I always feel like to say that it does not have a lot of low end is not exactly right, as it misleads people. Thing is that it just is not the focus point of the voicing (the would be the high mids). The PU however is in no way unbalanced. The low end is there and is very clear and defined, not the pushing kind but the punching. Very tight and present. It just does not pump and push, but trust me it hits hard.
It has all the power someone who does not need uber low tuned bassy sound wants. Your bass player will love you and you still have all the in your face punch for palm muting.

At least that is the way I feel.
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Re: In search of the right BKP set
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2013, 11:08:04 PM »
It has all the power someone who does not need uber low tuned bassy sound wants. Your bass player will love you and you still have all the in your face punch for palm muting.

At least that is the way I feel.

That's what I was thinking when I suggested it.  There's a LOT of bass in an Explorer naturally, in the same way that an SG has a lot of mids. The guitar will fill in the low end of the EQ anyway, especially if you have done stuff to improve the sustain like locking bridge and tailpiece studs.
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Re: In search of the right BKP set
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2013, 11:44:12 PM »
It has all the power someone who does not need uber low tuned bassy sound wants. Your bass player will love you and you still have all the in your face punch for palm muting.

At least that is the way I feel.

That's what I was thinking when I suggested it.  There's a LOT of bass in an Explorer naturally, in the same way that an SG has a lot of mids. The guitar will fill in the low end of the EQ anyway, especially if you have done stuff to improve the sustain like locking bridge and tailpiece studs.
Exactly, especially in such a guitar there will be no lack, but the RY will keep it controlled so it does not go muddy or just over. I have mine in a Ibanez S series, not the bassiest guitar around by a long shot though no strat, and while it is somewhat bright in there, it is not thin or lacking low end of punch for my tastes. Thus I think you are absolutly right suggesting it. +1 Sir!
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Re: In search of the right BKP set
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2013, 06:20:52 PM »
Thanks again for the replies! :D

I contacted BKP to see if it is possible to change my Warpigs (i'm gonna keep the nailbombs in the case i get a brighter guitar).

Cold Sweat set on the SG and Rebel Yell on the Explorer, but with the VHII neck, it seems like a nice combo as i see in the forum and hear from the clips.

I'll keep you guys posted with the results :)

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Re: In search of the right BKP set
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2013, 10:27:12 PM »
Which clip is that?

I've seen a clip of the Rebel Yell neck with the VHII bridge, I hope you haven't gotten them mixed up!

I like the clips of the VHII neck that I have heard.

From what I can tell the Rebel Yell neck is the middle ground between the VHII and Cold Sweat necks, combining aspects of both.
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Re: In search of the right BKP set
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2013, 08:45:02 AM »
The Rebel Yell's bass is very much in control. It will work well for the Explorer.

The Cold Sweat would be my pick for the SG to balance the middy character many SGs have.

Cheers Stephan