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miguelbatalha

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BKP's alternative to Dimarzio Injectors? "PG's Scarified" tone"
« on: November 16, 2013, 04:06:20 AM »
BKP's alternative to Dimarzio Injectors? In your opinion.

I'm looking for a Paul Gilbert "Scarified" tone.

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Re: BKP's alternative to Dimarzio Injectors?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2013, 09:47:49 AM »
Well of course BKP don't make any hum-cancelling single-coil replacements, but soundwise, I don't know.  gwEm has tried the Injectors, you could try sending him a PM if no-one responds.


Edit:  Wasn't "Scarified" a Racer X track, way back in the '80s?  I think he was using PAF Pro humbuckers in those days, but I could very well be wrong. 
« Last Edit: November 16, 2013, 07:27:45 PM by Philly Q »
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Re: BKP's alternative to Dimarzio Injectors? "PG's Scarified" tone"
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2013, 08:53:08 PM »
Philly is correct that I have an Injector. The Trilogy Suite is the closest for that.

For the Scarified tone though, I would go for something else.. Not exactly sure what though(!)
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Re: BKP's alternative to Dimarzio Injectors? "PG's Scarified" tone"
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2013, 10:02:01 PM »
Gilbert has used PAF for most of his career, probably Dimarzio.

I think in the 80's Vai, Satriani etc. used Dimarzio PAF on their recordings.
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Re: BKP's alternative to Dimarzio Injectors? "PG's Scarified" tone"
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2013, 10:07:39 PM »
I may be wrong (I often am), but hasn't the Cold Sweat neck - in bridge position - been suggested as an alternative to the PAF Pro?  I think Mr Hellstyle has commented on it.
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Re: BKP's alternative to Dimarzio Injectors? "PG's Scarified" tone"
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2013, 12:14:06 AM »
I may be wrong (I often am), but hasn't the Cold Sweat neck - in bridge position - been suggested as an alternative to the PAF Pro?  I think Mr Hellstyle has commented on it.

yes I did  :D
it does have a quite similar voicing in both positions
in the bridge it sounds very Gilberish
not sure if they would make it in 53mm, though
as an alternative, the bridge black dog sounds a bit more like new Mr. Big which was probably recorded with the injectors
it has a fatter and smoother humbucker response, of course, but the midrange is somewhat similar
also great for satriani-like tones
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Re: BKP's alternative to Dimarzio Injectors? "PG's Scarified" tone"
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2013, 12:28:52 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPGA3vjMLgE

seriously gilbert blows my mind
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Re: BKP's alternative to Dimarzio Injectors? "PG's Scarified" tone"
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2013, 02:22:14 AM »
The entire band blows my mind.  :lol: :shock:

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Re: BKP's alternative to Dimarzio Injectors? "PG's Scarified" tone"
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2013, 02:23:28 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPGA3vjMLgE

seriously gilbert blows my mind

The entire band blows my mind.  :lol: :shock:


BTW, That's exactly the kind of tone I'm looking for.

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Re: BKP's alternative to Dimarzio Injectors? "PG's Scarified" tone"
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2013, 03:19:33 AM »
what's the guitar and amps?
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Re: BKP's alternative to Dimarzio Injectors? "PG's Scarified" tone"
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2013, 07:31:08 AM »
Laney VC50. Great amp, used one for years.
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Re: BKP's alternative to Dimarzio Injectors? "PG's Scarified" tone"
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2013, 09:38:19 AM »
http://www.aristidesinstruments.com/page/arium.html

Sounds a fascinating concept.  I hadn't heard of Aristides before.
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Re: BKP's alternative to Dimarzio Injectors? "PG's Scarified" tone"
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2013, 08:41:04 PM »
He's been using various Marshalls recently IIRC.

Also, IIRC, he used parallel wire pickups for the Racer X stuff which would give a brighter tone with more attack. He loves coily cables I know that, which gives a bit more thickness to bright tones.

I would try a Rebel Yell maybe. But honestly, I wouldn't put my hat on that. No idea how those old PGM models would sound tonally.
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