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Re: moving on from the alnico warpig bridge.. (ceramic?)
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2013, 10:53:00 AM »
I'd say it's between the nailbomb and the new juggernaut
both should provide all the qualities you listed and fix what you're not liking about the warpig

thanks for this Eric, and also the other view points.

i hadn't considered the Juggernaut, and had assumed it was a djent-only thing.

I have a Juggernaut, and it's sure as hell not a one trick pony.
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Re: moving on from the alnico warpig bridge.. (ceramic?)
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2013, 11:15:54 AM »
Are you using a tubescreamer (or similar pedal) in your setup?  I find that tightens up the bottom end a bit, at least through my Peavey.
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Re: moving on from the alnico warpig bridge.. (ceramic?)
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2013, 03:35:58 PM »
I'd say it's between the nailbomb and the new juggernaut
both should provide all the qualities you listed and fix what you're not liking about the warpig

thanks for this Eric, and also the other view points.

i hadn't considered the Juggernaut, and had assumed it was a djent-only thing.

I have a Juggernaut, and it's sure as hell not a one trick pony.

Interesting to hear. BKPs generally aren't generally one trick ponies of course. But we've only really heard about the contemporary potential of the pickup. Do you think it would handle some metal of a more late 70s/early 80s nature?

I've sent a message to Tim so I hope for a definitive answer. I will keep you all updated here, because I think its an interesting problem. I am really into the guitar in question at the moment.

edit: and Tim recommended the Juggernaut. I'm in mind to take his advice. But would love to hear what people think.
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Re: moving on from the alnico warpig bridge.. (ceramic?)
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2013, 04:03:09 PM »
Far be it from me to question Tim because I respect everything the guy has to say about guitars and pickups, however, from an entirely personal perspective I'd be cautious about pulling the trigger on a Juggernaut right now for a few reasons.

There are a few people here who have tried the Juggernaut now and they seem to be impressed so that is very encouraging indeed but although there is talk of some versatility, that doesn't seem to have been very specific so far. I find myself always thinking that if it's so wonderful and so versatile, why haven't a liked a single clip I've ever heard from it? I've also noticed over the years that whenever a new pickup is released, for some months afterwards it gets a disproportionate number of recommendations from both forum members and BKP themselves. I think this is entirely natural due to the enthusiasm for the new product but it doesn't always give you the most balanced perspective. The Aftermath was also recommended extensively when it was first launched for loads of applications but it doesn't seem as widely talked about now.

I'm certainly not saying that you shouldn't buy a Juggernaut as it may be perfect for you and I'm pleased that other people like theirs; it's just that these are things I've noticed and would make me hesitate a little.
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Re: moving on from the alnico warpig bridge.. (ceramic?)
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2013, 04:07:32 PM »
I hear you Slartibart, and agree to a certain extent. Having said that though I've just listened to the Modern Metal Juggernaut clip and quite like it, though not so much the djenty section of that clip. The EQ characteristics seem to make sense too compared to the Warpig.

Comment from Tim was

"I'm actually going to suggest the new Juggernaut humbucker:

https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=humbuckers&sub=contemporary&pickup=juggernaut

as this gives you that mid range weight and clear but full highs coupled with a faster bass response. It works extremely well for all styles of driven tone and has a great clean too."
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Re: moving on from the alnico warpig bridge.. (ceramic?)
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2013, 10:43:23 PM »
The Aftermath was also recommended extensively when it was first launched for loads of applications but it doesn't seem as widely talked about now.

The Aftermath has barely been mentioned since the Juggernaut was released.  Seems that the Aftermath was a Misha fanboy pickup, and now that he has a signature pickup out they are all over that.  They will have to pitch the Aftermath differently.  Maybe some ads with Luc Lemay or something?
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Re: moving on from the alnico warpig bridge.. (ceramic?)
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2013, 12:03:20 AM »
I still have the feeling that the AM would be an absolute ace for modern metal in a baritone guitar, which is where I hope to stick mine someday. Right now it is lying around cause in a LP type there is just too much in ways of mids for me, could not quite get it to work. However in a baritone for me this and the BD (if I was not after just modern metal) would be killer. So  I just wanne score a nice baritone and use that for Machine Head, In Flames and such. I am only talking bridge btw, the neck is still great modern lead PU for many situations and much overlooked (also does an amazing early Petrucci lead sound I think).
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Re: moving on from the alnico warpig bridge.. (ceramic?)
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2013, 12:11:25 AM »
This is why I was amazed at it being recommended for an SG once.  To my mind it would be a complete mids-monster, almost unlistenable. https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=25405.0

But then again I find djent unlistenable ...
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Re: moving on from the alnico warpig bridge.. (ceramic?)
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2013, 10:01:38 PM »
But then again I find djent unlistenable ...

Maybe that's why I haven't liked many of the Juggernaut clips so far. I know it's been shown in styles that aren't djent but it still always sounds like a djent pickup to me. It's an area of the range that I think is starting to get a little congested now yet we still don't have anything that is similar to (and inevitably a massive improvement on) a Super Distortion.
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Re: moving on from the alnico warpig bridge.. (ceramic?)
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2013, 01:44:17 AM »
Yeah, I'm with you on that one.  I'd like to see something to replace the SD rather than another djent pickup.
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Re: moving on from the alnico warpig bridge.. (ceramic?)
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2013, 03:38:29 AM »
Guys, I feel as a comunity we can do this, make BKP release their version of the Super Distortion. I know there are plenty of forum members round here that feel the need for a BKP that does what the SD can do and there are plenty of Seymour Duncan pickups that were created through their forum, so maybe if we open up a separate thread on this and get enough votes Tim and the crew might give it a shot  :D

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Re: moving on from the alnico warpig bridge.. (ceramic?)
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2013, 06:30:33 AM »
^ I like this idea

My vote is for a SD that is tried-and-tested in an SG.  If it works there, it should work elsewhere.  If it were close to the Ibanez V2 that was used in the Iceman IC50 that would also be good ...
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Re: moving on from the alnico warpig bridge.. (ceramic?)
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2013, 07:06:46 AM »
Oh dear, have I started a revolution  :D
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Re: moving on from the alnico warpig bridge.. (ceramic?)
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2013, 07:39:34 AM »
Thread started  8)

https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=31070.0

I'd really love a Super Distortion + to be built because while writing the first post for the thread it struck me that this is actually the pickup I want for my Vintage as it would sit between my Crawler and Holydiver quite nicely.  :D
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