genuine floyd rose .Vs. copy

[Jonesy]

Has anyone compared a genuine floyd rose witha liscensed copy?


im just wondering if its worth swapping from a copy to a genuine one :roll:

[TwilightOdyssey]

OFR is far superior!

[nuntius]

Depends which copy you're talking about.

The old Ibanez Edge trems are generally regarded as a good alternative, but cost wise I think actually work out more expensive to buy ( www.ibanezrules.com has them for $235, whereas an average OFR costs $160 odd as far as I remember).  Last time I was looking, it was actually cheaper to import from the US rather than buy in the UK.


The Gotoh floyd is quite highly rated, and costs a bit less than both the Edge and OFR.

There's also the Schaller model, which as far as costs go, I think is fairly close to the OFR.   Schaller make the actual OFR as it is as well.

Apart from these ^ most floyd copies aren't worth looking at IMO.

[dave_mc]

Depends which copy you're talking about.

The old Ibanez Edge trems are generally regarded as a good alternative, but cost wise I think actually work out more expensive to buy ( www.ibanezrules.com has them for $235, whereas an average OFR costs $160 odd as far as I remember).  Last time I was looking, it was actually cheaper to import from the US rather than buy in the UK.


The Gotoh floyd is quite highly rated, and costs a bit less than both the Edge and OFR.

There's also the Schaller model, which as far as costs go, I think is fairly close to the OFR.   Schaller make the actual OFR as it is as well.

Apart from these ^ most floyd copies aren't worth looking at IMO.

seconded almost to the letter. Schallers are actually dearer than OFR's (unless i found somewhere selling OFR's very cheaply, lol)

I went for the Gotoh one, but i haven't got it installed yet, as the studs are too big and I have to get my guitar drilled out!

cheers!

[tewboss]

Has anyone compared a genuine floyd rose witha liscensed copy?

yes my Aria had a Floyd Rose 2 which was a licensed copy, but it is cheaper to make that the original ones. the knife edges on the copy wore out (even though I rarely used it).

just to echo what dave said, the studs were slimmer on the copied version. i kept the existing studs rather than replace them with the fatter versions.

[Bob Johnson]

I think that the Gotoh FRII is THE best available FR type trem. It comes in standard and low profile variants. It is extremely well engineered and has been the subject of many years of ongoing development, unlike many of the other FR's available. There are some single locking Gotoh FR's about on Ebay etc but these appear to be cost reduced OEM gear, probably grey imports or similar so watch out for these.

WD Music Products do the Gotoh II at a reasonable price; I'd personally recommend them unless you want to chance the will I / won't I get caught for VAT and duty importing from the US.

[dave_mc]

just to echo what dave said, the studs were slimmer on the copied version. i kept the existing studs rather than replace them with the fatter versions.

I had thought of that, but WD told me that it'd void the warranty if I did that. Plus, the Gotoh ones look better quality (my old ones are starting to wear) and they're locking studs too, which the Ibanez Lo-Trs ones aren't.

[chrisola]

Got a Gotoh fr on my Legra axe. Its fine. Sturdy and stays in tune a-ok.

The cr@p 'FR style' ones tend to be the ones on low end guitars, you can buy the trems on ebay for £15-£30 :E

Also a good setup go's a long way... a guy in my local shop had a budget ESP which he spent a while tweaking and it stayed in tune just as well as his OFR equipped 80's Kramer (both were gigging axes too).

[Cattivo Ragazzo]

Well, even the best ones suck at the best of times. Hipshot tremsetters are a must. If you service your trem regularly, and put vasaline petrolium lip stuff around the knife edges, and have a hipshot, and properly stretch strings, even the lowliest of trems can be perfectly abused while returning and staying in tune.

[Jonesy]

hipshot?...

are these gotoh ones double locking do u no?

[dave_mc]

Well, even the best ones suck at the best of times. Hipshot tremsetters are a must. If you service your trem regularly, and put vasaline petrolium lip stuff around the knife edges, and have a hipshot, and properly stretch strings, even the lowliest of trems can be perfectly abused while returning and staying in tune.

I haven't tried them, but I hear that hipshots stiffen the feel of the floyds,  as the extra springs in it makes the trem stiffer. This is worth bearing in mind if you like the trem to be silky smooth and very responsive (like me).

The Ibanez backstop supposedly does the same thing as a tremsetter, but doesn't stiffen the feel as much. Out of production, unfortunately.

Also, I disagree that even the best ones suck at the best of times. I love Floyds.

(I edited the above to be less ambiguous and confrontational)


Back to your original question, here's the good Gotoh one:  http://wdmusicproducts.co.uk/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=wduk&Product_Code=GE1996TC&Category_Code=TRMLS

It's double locking. You have to buy the locking nut separately, mind.

[Davey]

i never had a problem with my schaller. EVER.
restringing, seting up, dive bombing.

if the trem is well maintained, and of good quality, you dont need any extra gimmicks for it.

[Dakine]

What about the Mystical Tremol-No?
Am waiting for my Unicorn to drop one off right now :)

[Dakine]

Met a guy who has tried Tremol-No (as Allparts is here in Houston) and "HE" loved it.
Looks like a VERY simple device and should do well, IF they ever get em made in order to sell them :)

http://www.tremol-no.com/

[Dakine]

http://www.tremol-no.com/videos/T-NoDemoLarge.mov