Miracle Man or Warpig in bridge on a ESP Eclipse?

[RosettaStoned]

hi again. Ive read so many hours about BKP now, that im going to buy one now. I am very satisfyed with my neck pickup (BL 500r), so im gonna keep it.  In bridge posisition, i got a Seymour Duncan JB. Its actually great enough for me, but since i think burnt chrome looks sweet as hell, and it would match my quilted top good, i am gonna buy one. My dilemma is that i have noe idea which i am gonna choose. My guitar is made of mahogany body,mahogany neck and rosewood fretboard.
I play heavy metal, and solo/shred alot.

What would the difference with a Miracle Man vs Warpig in bridge do? and how will they sound vs the Seymour JB?

[metale]

If you like the JB, take a look at the Holy Diver.

[RosettaStoned]

Its ok. i could stick with it, but i would very much know the difference if i swap it for a Miracle Man or Warpig in bridge..  what would i expect? tonal differences? its those two BKP more screaming?

[metale]

Why those two? You are all over the place there, those two have little in common.

Forget pickup names: what tones do you want to achieve? How is the JB lacking for you? Want more output? More bass? Less high mids? More smoothness? This is what you need to tell us. Or name a song or two with the tones you would like to replicate.

[Alex]

I have an Eclipse as well. I had the Jazz/JB anniversary set in there for a short while - it sucked majorly (muddy, muddy, muddy...) and made the EMGs sound like the best thing ever.... until I've put the Miracle Man in.

It works great, IMO it is exactly the type of pickup that my guitar needs tonally to really scream. It is definitely great for shred. I know a lot of people here say the HD is the ultimate shred pickup, but that's more the case if you dig Joe Satriani/smooth 80s rock style shred (Whitesnake, Savatage). For early Steve Vai/Zakk Wylde/George Lynch/etc. the MM is a better fit to my ears.

[Slartibartfarst42]

The Holydiver is like having a JB but with none of the negatives and all the positives boosted tenfold and then some more positives on top of that. It's almost an insult to compare it to a JB as it's a billion times better but both are essentially about 80s Metal tone, hence the comparison. The Miracle Man is like a Holydiver with a bigger bottom end, more screaming highs, more tightness and more aggression while still being smooth, warm and organic.

[RosettaStoned]

MM sounds to fit my style very good. Early ZW pre mafia bls album, power metal,CFH ,trendkill and vulgar with pantera, early satriani and vai, bark at the moon for leads/solo. Lateralus and 10000 days from tool in riffing/rhytm sound.

"How can less be more? More is more!" -Yngwie Malmsteen    I wish to believe that=)

[Slartibartfarst42]

'Bark at the Moon' era Ozzy is 100% Holydiver while 'Miracle Man' era Ozzy is......well..........the Miracle Man actually  :D

[Dave Sloven]

I have an Eclipse as well. I had the Jazz/JB anniversary set in there for a short while - it sucked majorly (muddy, muddy, muddy...) and made the EMGs sound like the best thing ever.... until I've put the Miracle Man in.

It works great, IMO it is exactly the type of pickup that my guitar needs tonally to really scream. It is definitely great for shred. I know a lot of people here say the HD is the ultimate shred pickup, but that's more the case if you dig Joe Satriani/smooth 80s rock style shred (Whitesnake, Savatage). For early Steve Vai/Zakk Wylde/George Lynch/etc. the MM is a better fit to my ears.

I would take Alex's recommendation of the Miracle Man.  Sounds like it works in your model of guitar and should be able to give you most of the sounds you want.

[Bigfin]

I got Cold sweat bridge in my PRS mahogany body and neck with rosewood fingerboard.
Really satisfied with them, much better than SD full shred that I had installed before and PRS HFS as well.
True John Sykes sound, haven't tried MM or others yet.
Works well together warm mahogany with higher trebles of CS, nailed the combination perfect.
Hope I didn't make more confusion for your decision, but I think you can't get totally wrong with any of the mentioned PU.
cheers

[metale]

My vote is Miracle Man on this one.

[Dave Sloven]

I got Cold sweat bridge in my PRS mahogany body and neck with rosewood fingerboard.
Really satisfied with them, much better than SD full shred that I had installed before and PRS HFS as well.
True John Sykes sound, haven't tried MM or others yet.
Works well together warm mahogany with higher trebles of CS, nailed the combination perfect.
Hope I didn't make more confusion for your decision, but I think you can't get totally wrong with any of the mentioned PU.
cheers

I'm very happy with my Cold Sweat set in my SG, which is probably the most trebly of mahogany guitars but the set still doesn't sound overly bright. I would recommend the CS over the MM if versatility is preferred over absolute output.  In many ways the CS is to the MM what the RY is to the A-bomb, i.e. its more polite little brother, although the difference in output is greater between the MM and CS compared with that between the NB and RY

[darkbluemurder]

The Miracle Man bridge fits well with the Lawrence 500R. I would not go lower in output as the 500R is actually a very loud pickup.

Cheers Stephan

[darkandrew]

I've just gone for a set of Mules for my Eclipse as I already have an EMG 81/60 set in my other Eclipse, hopefully between these two I will have most of the tones that I need. By the way, do you have a LTD EC series or an ESP Eclipse, and again do you have the full width body or the 3/4 width? These options will make a bit of a difference as the ESP models feature a hefty slice of maple on top of the mahogany, which on the 3/4 width model accounts for about 1/3 of the body wood making it considerably brighter than say a full width LTD which is going to be a lot more (if not all) mahogany.

[miguelbatalha]

I'd choose Miracle Man. I think it will sound better when you shred/solo