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Bare Knuckle Black Dog Vs Wcr Icebucker

Bare Knuckle Black Dog
Wcr Icebucker

Author Topic: Bare Knuckle Black Dog Vs Wcr Icebucker (Jon Schaffer`s singnature Pickups)  (Read 6749 times)

aris17561

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Hey , I just made a comparison video cause I saw that this issue has been asked in the past...

Bare knuckle Black dog is the pup that Jon Schaffer from ICED EARTH used to use in the framing armageddon period when Tim mills  was in the band as a lead guitarist. Few years later Jon went to Jim Wagner who is a Handmade pickup maker and made his signature set of pickpus. The Icebuckers. So here I am testing those two pups. Make you choice and comment !!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AO3VY8Fylk

darrenw5094

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Black Dog is more open sounding even in the Youtube vid. The difference in the room would be even more dramatic.
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aris17561

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Black Dog is more open sounding even in the Youtube vid. The difference in the room would be even more dramatic.

Indeed the bk sounds more iced earth than the icebuckers ... Black dog is tighter and more aggressive ...

Dave Sloven

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I should preface this by saying that I don't like Iced Earth and that out of the BKP range the Black Dog is one of the pickups I'm not fond of BUT the Black Dog has the edge on the Icebucker in this comparison.  The BD never sounds choked up and farty whereas the Icebucker does from time to time in this video
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darrenw5094

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Still trying to like my Black Dog, but it's defo my least favorite BKP so far.
Funny think is though, it always sounds good in youtube.
BKP: Abraxas - Les Paul
Holy Diver - Charvel
Mule - Les Paul
Rebel Yell - Les Paul
VHII - PRS CU22
Emerald - Les Paul
Warpig - Caparison Horus

richard

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Late and a bit mashed but flicking to the 9 minute spot the guitars were so horribly out of tune I couldn't listen to the differences in tone..........
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darrenw5094

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Late and a bit mashed but flicking to the 9 minute spot the guitars were so horribly out of tune I couldn't listen to the differences in tone..........

Spot on. The Black Dog sounds better but doesn't stay in tune very well. :P
BKP: Abraxas - Les Paul
Holy Diver - Charvel
Mule - Les Paul
Rebel Yell - Les Paul
VHII - PRS CU22
Emerald - Les Paul
Warpig - Caparison Horus

aris17561

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Ok I ll do another comparison and I will notice carefully the tuning issue .


Don't forget to vote though . I see only one vote  . It says two but the first is mine which doesn't count ...
« Last Edit: January 19, 2014, 09:57:57 AM by aris17561 »

Dave Sloven

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I see only one vote  . It says two but the first is mine which doesn't count ...

Well, it seems that you agree with me then!
BLACK HAWKS
IMPULSES
COBRA-T
WAR PIGS
STOCKHOLM
COLD SWEATS
MIRACLE MAN
TRUE GRIT

https://slovendoom.bandcamp.com/releases

aris17561

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I see only one vote  . It says two but the first is mine which doesn't count ...

Well, it seems that you agree with me then!

Ha ha always ... Except the part you wrote that you don't like black dog ... :lol:

darrenw5094

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I am going to vote BD even though i am going to banish mine forever. Weird but true........
BKP: Abraxas - Les Paul
Holy Diver - Charvel
Mule - Les Paul
Rebel Yell - Les Paul
VHII - PRS CU22
Emerald - Les Paul
Warpig - Caparison Horus

aris17561

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I am going to vote BD even though i am going to banish mine forever. Weird but true........


Why man ? What doesn't like in bd ?

darrenw5094

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The BD is in a Tokai Les Paul Standard, but the absence of high mids paired with big low mids, doesn't balance very well with my brain.
BKP: Abraxas - Les Paul
Holy Diver - Charvel
Mule - Les Paul
Rebel Yell - Les Paul
VHII - PRS CU22
Emerald - Les Paul
Warpig - Caparison Horus