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ninetta82

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Humbacker suggestion
« on: January 21, 2014, 10:28:33 AM »
hi,I need another board:i would like to change my  strat's humbacker (bare knuckle rebel yell). this is my main guitar http://www.espguitars.co.jp/oversea/sig/gL_56.html; rebel yell is a good pick up but  ithink it does not work  very well with the bolt on neck type:it is great for the songs of billy idol but for hard rock 70/80 style maybe is too modern for me;I would like something more  bluesy, aggressive , more deep purple 70/80 sound, that work well with my guitar; in general I would like to get around this type of sound : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI_tDv5MBso but I would not give up a good versatility. I'm undecided between this type of humbacker but I do not know what is the most suitable:
seymour duncan:
custom 78 ( in this regard, which Mounting legs should I take for my guitar(standard short or vintage long)?
duncan distortion
di marzio:
paf pro
super distortion
bareknuckle:
holydiver
crawler
vhII

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Re: Humbacker suggestion
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2014, 10:34:40 AM »
If you want to get less modern and aggressive then you can rule out the Duncan Distortion and the DM Super Distortion. I also don't think that the DM PAF Pro would be the best choice for what you want.

Of the BKPs you mentioned the Holydiver would probably be the most suited but I would also look at the Black Dog, Emerald or Abraxas. Since you did not like the Rebel Yell I would stay away from the VHII. The Crawler may also have a bit too much output.

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Re: Humbacker suggestion
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2014, 10:51:03 AM »
If you want to get less modern and aggressive then you can rule out the Duncan Distortion and the DM Super Distortion. I also don't think that the DM PAF Pro would be the best choice for what you want.

Of the BKPs you mentioned the Holydiver would probably be the most suited but I would also look at the Black Dog, Emerald or Abraxas. Since you did not like the Rebel Yell I would stay away from the VHII. The Crawler may also have a bit too much output.

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you know something else that could be ideal? what do you think about custom 78 comparing whit holdover or black dog?

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Re: Humbacker suggestion
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2014, 01:22:52 PM »
Unfortunately I don't know anything about the custom 78.

Cheers Stephan

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Re: Humbacker suggestion
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2014, 01:36:16 PM »
While I absolutely love the Emerald set in my mate's Les Paul I would avoid putting it in a Strat as it is very bright, at least as bright as as Rebel Yell.

I would have thought the VHII to be a good option, given the clip posted. Apparently it works well in Strats.  Otherwise I would suggest looking at the Abraxas.

I don't know about the Black Dog.  Personally I haven't liked any clips of it yet, but I know others do.
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Re: Humbacker suggestion
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2014, 07:10:43 AM »
i had the jb on my guitar and I really liked it for lead solos but I did not like the sound a lot about rhythm part.I am looking for something that sounds good for lead solo so' as the jb ,hat feels good in the band mix (also band with two guitars) but that is pleasant and versatile even for the rhythm part , a bit 'better than jb.

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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2014, 08:25:03 AM »
For fantastic versatility I always think of a Crawler but much as I love it, it's not really a Deep Purple sound at all as it's VERY much a humbucker tone unless it's split. In this case an Abraxas might be a better option.
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Re: Humbacker suggestion
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2014, 09:47:57 AM »
abraxas is suitable for the type of construction of my guitar? what kind of spun can i obtain?comes out well in the band mix for lead solos?same thing for the crawler...
What can you tell me about vhII combined my start? I think I have to find the best hum backer that best match with my type of guitar.

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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2014, 04:05:50 PM »
Both the Crawler and Abraxas would work really well in that type of guitar. The Crawler has a fat, darker tone with a real 'growl' to it. Awesome from Blues Rock to early 80s Metal and with the best split tones I've ever heard from a humbucker. In terms of tone, it will move a Strat solidly towards the tone of a Les Paul. I love it in my PRS but then I'm not that keen on single coil tones; you may be different.

The Abraxas will have a bit less of that 'growl' and be a bit brighter. It's basically a hot PAF, very much in the vein of the Mule.. Both pickups have great lead tones, both are very articulate and both suit your type of guitar.
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Re: Humbacker suggestion
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2014, 04:59:25 PM »
Both the Crawler and Abraxas would work really well in that type of guitar. The Crawler has a fat, darker tone with a real 'growl' to it. Awesome from Blues Rock to early 80s Metal and with the best split tones I've ever heard from a humbucker. In terms of tone, it will move a Strat solidly towards the tone of a Les Paul. I love it in my PRS but then I'm not that keen on single coil tones; you may be different.

The Abraxas will have a bit less of that 'growl' and be a bit brighter. It's basically a hot PAF, very much in the vein of the Mule.. Both pickups have great lead tones, both are very articulate and both suit your type of guitar.
thanks; from the samples i have heard here and on youtube i like most the abraxas. Now i was seeing a few videos of warpig in a strat Guitar; it Does not look bad at all; what can you tell me about it? http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef3kVURwCdw

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Re: Humbacker suggestion
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2014, 11:48:29 PM »
Both the Crawler and Abraxas would work really well in that type of guitar. The Crawler has a fat, darker tone with a real 'growl' to it. Awesome from Blues Rock to early 80s Metal and with the best split tones I've ever heard from a humbucker. In terms of tone, it will move a Strat solidly towards the tone of a Les Paul. I love it in my PRS but then I'm not that keen on single coil tones; you may be different.

The Abraxas will have a bit less of that 'growl' and be a bit brighter. It's basically a hot PAF, very much in the vein of the Mule.. Both pickups have great lead tones, both are very articulate and both suit your type of guitar.
thanks; from the samples i have heard here and on youtube i like most the abraxas. Now i was seeing a few videos of warpig in a strat Guitar; it Does not look bad at all; what can you tell me about it? http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef3kVURwCdw

In a Strat you are going to have a hard time finding single coils that will match up with its output.  Most likely you would need a pair of the bridge version of the Sinner with the baseplate option.

Personally I think you will be happier with the Abraxas for what you want to play.
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Re: Humbacker suggestion
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2014, 12:07:56 AM »
In a Strat you are going to have a hard time finding single coils that will match up with its output.  Most likely you would need a pair of the bridge version of the Sinner with the baseplate option.

Personally I think you will be happier with the Abraxas for what you want to play.

The bridge Sinners with baseplates would do the job with a Warpig but you're going to sound a million miles from Deep Purple.
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ninetta82

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Re: Humbacker suggestion
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2014, 09:27:50 AM »
Until that sounds can 'get the abraxas? I'm not looking only the deep purple type of sound, i like a lot also acdc sound, later 70, early 80 hard/heavy type of sound; in conclusion a good versatile pick up with similar single pickup attack but most powerfull than this, where Notes sing well for the lead solo parts, good only for the gary more lead(especially thin lizzy phase),that is able to send me a nice feeling and powerful sound.
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Re: Humbacker suggestion
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2014, 12:28:46 PM »
I would pick a Crawler for that. Big fat PAF-ish tones. Crawler does a great job in bolt-on-neck guitars.
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