Telecaster for metal pickup

[metale]

On an alder tele I would go Aftermath before a Painkiller. Or Juggernaut.

I'm from Santarém :)

[Sarkasis]

The palm mutes about 1 minute in on that song are a job for the Aftermath. Definitely put the Aftermath at the top of your list, it has the broad midrange and the percussive qualities for Converge. Other than that, something dry or in ceramic would be where to start looking.

You'll probably need something 60 watts+ to be able to really play with drums. Those high quality low-watt Orange or Blackstar amps tend to cost almost as much as 100 watt amps anyway.

[Dave Sloven]

You'll probably need something 60 watts+ to be able to really play with drums. Those high quality low-watt Orange or Blackstar amps tend to cost almost as much as 100 watt amps anyway.

+1

Seeing as you are paying in Euros I'd be looking around for an ENGL of some sort.  Can't find them here in Australia any more but I think they are probably your best bet for those sounds. Their cabs are amazing too if you want tightness.  The 4x V30 cab in particular

[littleredguitars2]

blackstar has some pretty cheap amps that sound nice

[matarroano]

Still want to hear more advices from you! Maybe it's better if I give you some more references about what I wish to sound like:

Think Post-Hardcore, Noise, Drone, Sludge, Stoner, Doom. Sunn O))), Earth, Boris, Converge, Integrity, Coalesce, Botch.

If I sell some gear, maybe I'll go for the set, both bridge and neck, so please take that into account. In the first post I was thinking just bridge...

As for amps what do you think of the Orange Dark Terror? Been watching some videos and it sounds really nice. Maybe not loud enough for band practice and gigging...

[lamp]

Honestly my advice would be get an amp first.  Then play it.  Find out what you are lacking in terms of sound and then get the right pickups to fill the void.  It's all about the total combination, with higher gain amps you can go for a wider range of pups as it will be able to give you all the gain you need.

[Dave Sloven]

For that kind of music I'd be looking for a loud amp.

Whatever drummer you get to play it with you is for damn sure gonna be loud.  You won't be able to hear yourself with the little Orange amp

[mongey]

I have an alnico warpig in a tele copy for metal fun

sounds realy good tuned to D standard. any lower I would say go ceramic .

I have no neck pick up in it but I'd consider  the warpig neck for a good match

[matarroano]

I have an alnico warpig in a tele copy for metal fun

sounds realy good tuned to D standard. any lower I would say go ceramic .

I have no neck pick up in it but I'd consider  the warpig neck for a good match

My first option was a Warpig. Undecided about alnico or ceramic but  more inclined for alnico. Now, after the recommendations that followed it's going to be Warpig, Aftermatch or Nailbomb.

For that kind of music I'd be looking for a loud amp.

Whatever drummer you get to play it with you is for damn sure gonna be loud.  You won't be able to hear yourself with the little Orange amp

That's what I thought. I would love to have a all tube, lunchbox-type head. Really great quality tone for practice and home playing. Not loud enough for gigging or rehearsals with a loud drummer.

Still want to upgrade my Line 6 Spider for something with more quality and more organic sounding... Peavey 6505+ 112 60W Combo? That's another option to consider besides the "lunchboxes"....

The amp is another dilemma... Let's keep out attention on the BKP's I should get. Thanks!

[Dave Sloven]

That Peavey will go pretty loud, and should do the trick.

I've seen them on sale for very good prices.

I would probably swap out all the tubes if you start getting a problem with blown fuses though.  They have a bit of a reputation for it and apparently a cracked valve can be the cause.  They are made in China (unlike the rest of the 6505 family) so that might be why a few of them ended up with that problem but if it happens within the first three months tubes are covered by warranty and I would insist that they be checked if they say the issue is a fuse.

Other than that little issue I'd say they are a good amp, especially in terms of sound.

I have its big brother the 6534+ and I'm happy with it.  Took a while to get my speakers broken in on the cab I'm using with it but once that happened it started to sound pretty good.  With the Peaveys just be mindful of dirty loop jacks (use contact cleaner on a cable end and push it in and out a few times and wipe on a paper towel if that happens) and the inevitable noise on the lead channel due to the high gain, which can be controlled with an ISP Decimator or similar pedal in the loop.  I do know a guy who plays a 6505+ with no pedals at all, and his bandmates don't seem to bitch about it being noisy, but mine do every time I accidentally kick the ISP off by accident.

[CommonCourtesy]

I have recently acquired the 6505+ head and its a beast! Its VERY loud. For 120 watts of power I don't need to turn it past 2 which is a waste of headroom. But I love the dirty channel, so thick and beastly!!

As Agent Orange said its a noisy amp so a Decimator is a must, well for me anyway, I forked out the money for it and its worth every single penny. Stop start riffing is nice and tight and the humming and stuff is non-existent!

Droptuned chugging sounds great, esp with a newly installed Aftermath in the bridge in my LP studio!

[Dave Sloven]

I did some more reading on the 112 combo and there were also quite a few people complaining about the buffered effects loop.

Seems there are quite a few differences between the 112 combo and the 6505+ head, so you should look into it thoroughly.

There are still some of the old 60W 6505 212 combos kicking around if you want a combo.  They are heavy though.

Personally I think if you are going to go Peavey 6505 series the best route is either a 6505+ or 6534+ head and a 4x12 cab.  If you think a 4x12 cab is heavy wait until I try lifting a combo.  I'm not kidding.  At least with the head and cab you have two lighter objects to carry.  Where my band practices we have a 412 there so I just use that for practices.  Sometimes you can borrow a 412 at gigs too.  You don't end up carrying the 412 around that much.  Mine hasn't left the house yet.

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/gear-equipment/127589-peavey-6505-combo-vs-head.html

My 6534+ is around 25kg. The cab is 50kg (Orange) but there are lighter ones.

If you can find a 2x12 rated around 200W that would be safe too, just depends on if you like the speakers.

[King IzzO)))]

I was compelled to post by that list of bands, we could be friends.

Any of the C-Pig, C-Bomb, Aftermath or Painkiller can totally do older Converge/Coalesce, Botch, etc. Just depends on your preference. I can't comment on the others, never had them. For The Saddest Day sound specifically you'd want a PK.

The amp is the important part. I would look for a 5150/6505, a TS type OD, and a good 4x12, if you're serious. The + is a slightly different sounding amp, the lead channel is more high mid oriented and brighter. The standard model (non+) has more low mid grind, and is usually the preferred version for this type of thing. Try them both if you can.

Combos are for choads.

Ballou used an 81 into a Metalzone (lol) into a JMP and a V4 back in the day. So there's any number of ways to get there, just keep that in mind.

For the sludgedoom thing, use a PAF or P90-ish neck pickup, roll the tone knob down a bit, and play really loud. You won't get a V4/Model T thing out of a 5150, but you can get real good sludgedoom sounds, and if you can't, get a fuzz and run on the clean channel. A-Pig is awesome for this sort of thing.