Chart of actual BKP's output, rather than DC resistance?

[silence2-38554]

After trying a fairly wide variety of BKP's, I feel it would be very useful to be able to see them listed out from lowest -> highest output, as the DC resistance does not equate to this at all when considering other differences in construction / design.  For example, the Black Hawks are some of the highest output pickups I've played, yet they have a relatively low DC resistance.  In my experience, I have played the following & feel that they fall into this order from lowest to highest:

Riff Raff
Cold Sweat
Holydiver
Juggernaut
Aftermath
Black Hawk
Miracle Man

Perhaps we can collaborate & create our own reference list?

[mongey]

I'd say the black hawk is a good whack hotter the the miracle man IMHO

I dont find the miracle man that hot at all .

[Yellowjacket]

Interesting.

FWIW, the A-Bomb neck is noticeably hotter than the Rebel Yell.  More so than the DC resistance would indicate. 

[silence2-38554]

I'd say the black hawk is a good whack hotter the the miracle man IMHO

I dont find the miracle man that hot at all .

You're right, actually.  I would put the MM as hotter than the Juggernaut but slightly less than the Aftermath, with the Black Hawk still being the hottest I've tried.  From everything I've read, it seems that the Warpig is the only PU hotter than the Black Hawk.

[darkbluemurder]

I have not played the Cold Sweat and the Holydiver in the same guitar but I would guess that the Cold Sweat would be the louder of these two, but certainly not by much.

Miracle Man is definitely louder than Holydiver and Cold Sweat.

To make myself clear, I was talking only bridge pickups so far.

With neck pickups, the Cold Sweat is definitely louder than the Holydiver.

Cheers Stephan

[Alex]

From my experience:

Sinner
Black Dog
Holy Diver
Nailbomb
Miracle Man
Juggernaut

I feel the MM is very dependent on the guitar for its output; if some feel the MM is louder than the Juggernaut, that is fine by me. Both are definitely hotter than the Nailbomb though.

[littleredguitars2]

Here is my opinion on the ones I've tried plus a couple other brands

Mule
Nailbomb alnico
trilogy suite (only tried the mid and neck with base plates)
Piledriver
rebel yell
Juggernaut
Stockholm
SD invader
Gibson dirty fingers

But to be honest it depends on the guitar.  The juggernaut SCREAMED in a les Paul but not as much in my strat

[Yellowjacket]

You'd say a Rebel Yell is HOTTER than an A-Bomb?  Putting an A-Bomb in my LP in lieu of a Rebel Yell indicates otherwise. 

[lamp]

Likewise. ABomb in my LP way hotter than the RY it replaced.

[littleredguitars2]

Like I said it really can depend on the guitar.  I had an a bomb in a strat and I had to push it really hard but it would probably be a bit meatier in a les Paul or other guitar. The rebel yells in the les Paul were definitely high out put but not insane or anything

[mongey]

I'd say the black hawk is a good whack hotter the the miracle man IMHO

I dont find the miracle man that hot at all .

You're right, actually.  I would put the MM as hotter than the Juggernaut but slightly less than the Aftermath, with the Black Hawk still being the hottest I've tried.  From everything I've read, it seems that the Warpig is the only PU hotter than the Black Hawk.

I have an Apig in a 6 and had a Cpig in my 7 and I'd still say the blackhawk is hotter

like others said , I do think it depends on the guitar design and wood . the resonant peak of the pick up really gets accentuated  by the wood and it comes across as being louder when its really more of an eq thing

[littleredguitars2]

this thread keeps making me want a blackhawk.

[Alex]

Wow, lots of different perceptions. It seems the guitar's acoustic properties make a huge impact on how loud/hot the sound comes across.

It is probably then a good thing that BKP aren't rated in output.

[darkbluemurder]

Wow, lots of different perceptions. It seems the guitar's acoustic properties make a huge impact on how loud/hot the sound comes across.

This is also my experience. I also found that sometimes a comparison even in the same guitar will not give repeatable results - put the same two pickups in a different guitar and you get different impressions.

Cheers Stephan

[Yellowjacket]

Rebel Yell bridge in my Gibson Les Paul standard sounded a bit thin in the lows.  Put it in an all mahogany Godin LG and it sounds enormous, like a house.  My wife heard me jamming and she says "that thing sounds HUGE".