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darrenw5094

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Re: Versatile "metal" pickup(s)?
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2014, 03:19:07 PM »
That guitar would be worth a few quid. A bridge conversion will probably devalue it, but it's your guitar, so you can do what you want with it.
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Re: Versatile "metal" pickup(s)?
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2014, 06:50:29 PM »
ok so as a noob pretty much what do you guys suggest i do just keep the bridge? how do i got about polishing it up to clean it and stuff then? Also i heard get a kahler? ill look more into the Graph Tech ResoMax NW1. i dont know too much about those ones.

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Re: Versatile "metal" pickup(s)?
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2014, 07:11:40 PM »
There are some better quality vintage tremolos available, you could look into that. If you have the nut looked at, locking tuners on it and a new bridge, the performance should be very stable. I think I had a Wilkinson tremolo on the ESP strat I had a while and I was quite amazed at the tuning stability when using the tremolo.

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Re: Versatile "metal" pickup(s)?
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2014, 09:21:51 AM »
what about Alnico II Pro Slash APH-2?

darrenw5094

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Re: Versatile "metal" pickup(s)?
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2014, 02:41:02 PM »
what about Alnico II Pro Slash APH-2?

Wow......a non BKP opinion. :o
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Re: Versatile "metal" pickup(s)?
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2014, 03:53:09 PM »
The Alnico II Pro pickups are very nice but I don't know if I would consider them "metal" pickups. 

Now this is simply my opinion, don't lynch me.  I've had very good experiences mixing bright amps like Marshalls with dark guitars / seymour duncan humbuckers.  Generally the thicker woolier tone really gives a lot of girth and chunk to the more brittle and defined tones. 
My love affair with Bare Knuckle pickups is that they mate so incredibly well with Mesa Boogie amps, amps that start to quickly become dark and muddy with dark guitars / seymour duncans.  The clarity and detail really contributes to the overall tone of a boogie which is also very detailed / complex. 

So, consider your amp.  For Metal / Non metal, I think it's more an amp thing.  I discovered that Nailbomb + Les Paul + Dual Rectifier = really modern tones.  Electra Dyne + Les Paul + Nailbomb = wicked warm (Brown) and more vintage crunch tones. 

Marshall JCM 2000 + Mahogany guitar / Bolt On Neck (Godin LG) plus Custom Custom in the bridge = wicked thick and bright metal tones and killer rock crunch. 

Oh, Rebel Yell set is also awesome.  It can do metal like tones but it's different than a Nailbomb.  More mids, more open highs, and cleans up even better with the volume pot. 

Maybe try recording your guitar unplugged to get an idea of its overall tonality?  I've been doing this now to help with my pickup selection.

Here is my document for reference.  #1  Godin LG.  Very scooped guitar with really phat low mids and a bump in the low treble / high mids around 4 - 5k.
Mahogany neck bolt on, rosewood fingerboard, mahogany body.
#2  Gibson Les Paul.  A thick but clear lows, more than adequate low mids, a present, round midrange up until abound 2k.  Very even high mid and treble response. 
Mahogany set neck, rosewood fingerboard, mahogany weight relieved body with a maple cap.  This guitar sounds much like an acoustic guitar unplugged.
#3 Godin Redline.  Hard maple neck, rosewood fingerboard, soft maple body with poplar wings.  Bolt on neck.  Big lows and low mids but definitely much more mids, especially 500 - 1000Hz.  A bump between 3 - 4k.  It's strat like, brighter than the other two guitars, but very balanced.  Dark for a strat.
#4  Peavey Predator AX.  Strat Copy. Maple neck, rosewood fingerboard, bolt on neck.  Not sure what the body is, but most likely poplar, alder, or swamp ash.  This guitar was the brightest for sure, with a lot more mids than the other guitars.  The upper harmonics were particularly present, from about 6k up to like 10k. 

I recorded these samples with a condenser mic around the neck pickup on the instrument.  This little experiment has been really helpful for me when I was attempting to choose pickups.

Happy choosing.   

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Re: Versatile "metal" pickup(s)?
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2014, 04:21:18 PM »
Holy Diver and Nailbomb come to mind as the versatile options.
Black Dog if you want less output and a foot in the classic rock camp.
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Re: Versatile "metal" pickup(s)?
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2014, 06:39:19 AM »
what about dirty fingers?

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Re: Versatile "metal" pickup(s)?
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2014, 09:16:55 AM »
Played my Cold Sweat SG Standard today and yes it still sounds amazing.

The best guitar for metal I've had and the best pickups for metal out of the BKPs I've owned - and that includes Warpigs and Nailbombs!
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Re: Versatile "metal" pickup(s)?
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2014, 11:45:27 AM »
Cool looking axe bro..   8) its got all of the old flavour.

I see the MPC1000 as well. Do you use it together with your guitars? Is there example production of yours we can hear?
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Re: Versatile "metal" pickup(s)?
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2014, 11:51:00 PM »
yeah i do use the mpc 1000 with my guitars. right now all my gear is this:
AKAI MPC 1000
ALESIS MULTIMIX 8 USB FX
AKAI MINIAK
BC RICH BICH NJ-1984 with cobalt strings
YAMAHA FD02 with Elixir strings
CASIO PX350
Samick Malibu Greg Bennett Strat
and the only amp i currently own is a silvertone 10 watt but i have another forum asking people what amp i should upgrade too so ill be getting a better one soon. I was borrowing a buddys line6 but now i have to get my own. :p

Im currently editing the sample production. I have some Michael Jackson production on the MPC right now and im editing a lamb of god sample i played on the BICH. Im a noob on here how do i link a song? just put the link to the youtube or soundcloud?

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Re: Versatile "metal" pickup(s)?
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2014, 10:02:38 AM »
Yes, that will do:)
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Re: Versatile "metal" pickup(s)?
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2014, 12:41:00 PM »
I have a BC Rich Mockingbird from the early 80's.  It has a Badass bridge, so you could look at them as a replacement.  I put a set of Cold Sweats in it and it works really well.  The phase switches and preamp/varitone all work really well with them.

So many pickups, so little time

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Re: Versatile "metal" pickup(s)?
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2014, 06:58:18 AM »
anyone play a Bill Lawrence L-90 in the neck and a L-500 in the bridge.? i listened to some videos and it seems the rebel yell sounds very 80's to me. Its cool and all, but it doesent sound like it could play modern metal at all. ill admit i liked that you could get them with a laser gun etch lol
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Re: Versatile "metal" pickup(s)?
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2014, 08:36:09 AM »
Cold Sweats will give you anything from Judas Priest to Pantera to Slayer and Celtic Frost.

They do not have an EMG type sound though - if you are looking for that go for a Black Hawk or Miracle Man.

Rebel Yells do sound quite '80s, very Ratt or Randy Rhoads
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