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NGD Fireman!
« on: September 23, 2014, 03:02:04 PM »
Say hi to my new Ibanez Frm250mf.
Its been on my list (along with a vintage iceman and a Mustain angel of death) for ages now  regardless of the price and they finally became more widely available here in uk.
I expected it to be big, heavy with a massively thick neck, too thick for me. But i was wrong.....its ace!
I'm a bit of a Japanese ibanez snob and this is made in china and that was another reason i expected to not like this.
 
It plays fantastic and the d!m#£$!0 air classics sound very cool. I think they may compare to a mule maybe (just an uneducated guess) not as fat as my vhii neck and the bridge is voiced like a holy diver but quieter and slightly less throat. The quality of sound is there though. are there better BKP options?
A couple of strange things for me are the wiring "options". Firstly It's wired so you can't choose to use the middle single coil on its own instead the middle selection gets you both humbuckers. This does sound ace but i would love to hear the area67 on its own. Second is the tone knob only works in positions 3. 4 and 5 (Ibanez did intend this it's not a fault) . Maybe this is to do with the middle position setup....who knows

I must have sat in the shop for an hour just playing! I forgot i was there!! Ibanez did well for a Made in china instrument.

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Re: NGD Fireman!
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2014, 03:24:25 PM »
Cool stuff! Fireman is also on my list...god it is a long list. So congrats on getting one that is lovely. That wiring does sound strange though...
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Re: NGD Fireman!
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2014, 04:19:41 PM »
Second is the tone knob only works in positions 3. 4 and 5 (Ibanez did intend this it's not a fault) . Maybe this is to do with the middle position setup....who knows
pretty pretty!

I guess they wired the tone pot like that to brighten up the neck postions
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Re: NGD Fireman!
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2014, 04:37:09 PM »
Interesting.
To actually brighten them or To keep them bright, do you think?
The latter seems weird admittedly.

Second is the tone knob only works in positions 3. 4 and 5 (Ibanez did intend this it's not a fault) . Maybe this is to do with the middle position setup....who knows
pretty pretty!

I guess they wired the tone pot like that to brighten up the neck postions
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Re: NGD Fireman!
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2014, 04:40:56 PM »


as a reference for other forumers heres that position selector diagram.

would be cool to try some different wiring options!

removing the tone pot makes things a little brighter than it being there, even on full. i know paul likes a bright sound, with the humbuckers, maybe it was a little dark for him.
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Re: NGD Fireman!
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2014, 04:44:36 PM »
Yeah man had a great nosey of that yesterday.
So the option to rack it up to the pot is there maybe? I do use my tone to warm things up here and there.  Plus as awesome as this guitar sounds the difference between 1, 3, 5 positions are more subtle than my other guitars
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Re: NGD Fireman!
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2014, 04:47:06 PM »
Yeah man had a great nosey of that yesterday.
So the option to rack it up to the pot is there maybe? I do use my tone to warm things up here and there.  Plus as awesome as this guitar sounds the difference between 1, 3, 5 positions are more subtle than my other guitars
the tone control will be connected to the bridge humbucker. you can just move it to the jack. a pretty easy mod.
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Re: NGD Fireman!
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2014, 08:56:36 PM »
Beautiful Ibbie you scored!
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Re: NGD Fireman!
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2014, 09:06:40 PM »
i was never a big fan of ibanez but when it came to the iceman and fireman i was always curious to try one. i bet its nice and beefy! plus i'm a huuuuge paul gilbert fan.
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Re: NGD Fireman!
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2014, 09:46:28 PM »
You wait ages for one Fireman and then two turn up!  Nice one, looks excellent!  :cool:
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Re: NGD Fireman!
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2014, 11:37:59 PM »
I have been sat playing it for 3 hours straight now and i must say its great in the neck position! very stratty indeeeeeed and bright for a neck position!
not too impressed with the split with the area 67 tho bridge or neck. It muddies and weakens considerably to my ears. I kind of get the same experience with my Irish Tour as well tho. An Ibanez s1 middle is much better suited to my tastes so far. The s1 is fuller and louder wether split or not
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Re: NGD Fireman!
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2014, 12:17:46 PM »
You wait ages for one Fireman and then two turn up!  Nice one, looks excellent!  :cool:
Ha! A big +1.
Very cool, congrats!

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Re: NGD Fireman!
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2014, 10:40:02 AM »
Congrats, that is a beautiful looking guitar. Love that top with the zebras
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Re: NGD Fireman!
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2014, 02:05:59 PM »
Cheers guys.

Another up date after another day of playing. I love It more now that I have found the amps optimal settings for the dimarzio bits in it. Sweet is the only word i can find to accurately describe all the tone out of this thing. It's very nice indeed (including the area 67)

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Re: NGD Fireman!
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2014, 10:16:31 PM »
Not normally my sort of guitar however that actually looks lovely so yep, that'll do nicely.
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