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Re: Overdrives to push tube amps
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2014, 04:02:20 PM »
Cheers for the link.

Wow, he has his low on the lead channel up to 8.  I keep mine around 5. I have a bit less mids and treble than him too, but I have to say that much of what happens in terms of the mids etc happens with the EQ pedal.  His presence and resonance are around the same as mine.

I did laugh about the fact that his stage settings for post gain on his lead channel are lower than what I use at practice (and even sometimes in my house).  I generally have my post set at 3 and I'm prepared to raise that if necessary!  IMHO Peaveys don't get to their real character until you get to at least where his post is set.  Above that it's all gravy I guess.

I think one reason why I don't need a screamer is that the Stockholm is a very aggressive pickup.




 
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Re: Overdrives to push tube amps
« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2014, 05:18:57 PM »
No worries, yeah he has a lot of low end! He has his mids near 6/7 which is what I was doing but since rolling it off to 5 I think the clarity is better.

Well he's being mic'd up and probably uses in-ears so there's no need to turn up to a ridiculous stage volume. Can't see his tubescreamer settings though.

Even I can't turn my post gain up past 2.5 without pissing the sound guy off!

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Re: Overdrives to push tube amps
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2014, 12:30:08 AM »
In the underground punk scene here we often have to play with virtually no sound guy, no mics on the drums, and just a vocal PA.  Volume is basically determined by how loud we can go before we can't hear the drummer any more, which in my case is around 3.

Our bassist has lined up a spot for us at the local annual punx picnic so we won't even bother taking our good amps for that.  I will probably take my old Bandit (hopefully it is up to it!) and run that script reissue MXR Distortion+ I have through it, and use my Explorer rather than my SG Junior just because the neck on that is stronger and more likely to survive any mishaps.

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Re: Overdrives to push tube amps
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2014, 12:13:35 PM »
I've played in venues before where the amps aren't mic'd up too you know! Horrible sound and you get the bleed into the vocal mics. On stage it sounds rubbish. Dunno about out front.

Thankfully as we've gone through the venues and stuff they've got better and most places have a decent sound system now, long way off from in ears haha. One of the best sounds I've had is in two venues, where we had at least two monitors each and side fills. Unfortunately not every place we play is like that but its nice to be able to hear yourself and the sound is great out front!

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Re: Overdrives to push tube amps
« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2014, 02:19:00 PM »
I just play and hope to hear myself and the drummer ... I get someone to record it so that I can enjoy the out front sound later.
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Re: Overdrives to push tube amps
« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2014, 02:23:37 PM »
Well I just hope I get heard over our drummer cos he's very loud! Also the other guitars tend to want to turn up loud too for some reason.

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Re: Overdrives to push tube amps
« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2014, 02:30:49 PM »
This is where we are playing next Saturday ... actually we use it as our practice room and that's the cruddy vocal PA we will be using ... the guy on vocals is a friend of ours who was with us for a few weeks and didn't have any vocals worked out at the time, he was just yelling whatever ... our bassist (who you can hear doing vocals on the choruses) and the lead guitarist have taken over vocals together now and we are a four piece ... that's me with the pink SG Junior.  As you can see, underground d-beat punk. BKPs are a bit of overkill, as is my effects board ... we worked the OD/Phaser/EQ combination into the bridge of a song I wrote tonight, will have to listen back to the recordings to see if it worked okay ... our lead guitarist didn't like it (but he's jealous of my board!) but the bassist said it sounded great.

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We all have to squeeze into where the bassist and drummer are, that's the stage ... audience will be where the guitars are set up

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Re: Overdrives to push tube amps
« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2014, 02:36:08 PM »
Nice link! Can't beat some good old underground punk! What are you running your post-gain on then, 3?!

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Re: Overdrives to push tube amps
« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2014, 02:38:49 PM »
Yeah, 3

That video was recorded with a Sony Cybershot DSC-HX20V camera on a little tripod sitting on top of one of the PA speakers ...
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Re: Overdrives to push tube amps
« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2014, 02:41:05 PM »
I've never ever turned it up to 3 for a show lol, only 2.5 before the soundguy has asked me to turn down. What if they did 6505+s as 60 watt amps I wonder, you'd get more headroom to crank.

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Re: Overdrives to push tube amps
« Reply #40 on: October 19, 2014, 02:44:03 PM »
The singer has a tough job in that band.
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Re: Overdrives to push tube amps
« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2014, 02:47:04 PM »
A vocalist's job in a band like ours is to yell in time, drink beer, get among the punters!  :laugh:

The 6505+ 112 (China) combo is 60W, as is the old/discontinued 5150/6505 (USA) 212 combo
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