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CS bridge vs MM bridge. How similar are they?
« on: January 11, 2015, 10:11:51 PM »
Hi, just being curious, how similar are Cold Sweat and Miracle Man bridge models?
As far as I can read here, both pickups share same tonal traits and apparently are quite similar to each other. How much?

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Mayones Flame CS2000 - Miracle Man (b), Sinner (m), Aftermath (n)
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Re: CS bridge vs MM bridge. How similar are they?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2015, 10:35:35 PM »
miracle man sounds bassier, darker voiced on the midrange and more modern, with fatter pinch harmonics and thicker rhythm tone
cold sweat has less low mids and more present center and upper mids
I think the cold sweat sounds more articulate, like a hotter and more aggressive version of the vhII
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Re: CS bridge vs MM bridge. How similar are they?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2015, 10:39:22 PM »
cheers,

and what about the lead tone, which one better copes with lead stuff?
and how leads look like with each of them?
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Re: CS bridge vs MM bridge. How similar are they?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2015, 10:57:19 PM »
I wouldn't say one has any advantage over the other in that aspect
both can deliver great lead tones
I love the king's x/pantera-like sharp lead tone of the cold sweat, but I like the modern approach of the miracle man as well
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Re: CS bridge vs MM bridge. How similar are they?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2015, 11:12:31 PM »
thanks a lot Erik!

so generally speaking they are quite different pickups overall, even that often CS is recommended as a substitute for MM in darker sounding guitars.
Dean Cadillac - Emerald (b), Cold Sweat (n),
Mayones Flame CS2000 - Miracle Man (b), Sinner (m), Aftermath (n)
Warmoth Custom Telecaster - Cold Sweat (b) VHII (n)
Warmoth Custom Tele - Miracle Man set

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Re: CS bridge vs MM bridge. How similar are they?
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2015, 07:27:48 AM »
Current BKPs: Miracle Man, Nailbomb, Juggernaut, VHII
Past BKPS: Holy Diver, Trilogy Suite, Sinner, Black Dog

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Re: CS bridge vs MM bridge. How similar are they?
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2015, 09:00:58 PM »
thanks a lot!

so correct me if Im wrong, MM and CS are coming out from the same idea but in two different ways, same as Nailbomb and RY? Would comparison with ABomb and RY would be proper?
Would CS to MM be the same as ABomb to RY?
Dean Cadillac - Emerald (b), Cold Sweat (n),
Mayones Flame CS2000 - Miracle Man (b), Sinner (m), Aftermath (n)
Warmoth Custom Telecaster - Cold Sweat (b) VHII (n)
Warmoth Custom Tele - Miracle Man set

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Re: CS bridge vs MM bridge. How similar are they?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2015, 10:02:07 PM »
depends on the interpretation, but yes, you could say that
I actually think the miracle man gets closer to the John Sykes ballpark than the cold sweat
the cold sweat has a more articulate and refined approach, which reminds me a lot of Ty Tabor lead tones on King's X "Dogman" album
you can tell the basic differences from the website clips
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