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Alfi27

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Strat pickups with Tele sound?
« on: June 25, 2015, 11:21:35 PM »
Hello! It has recently come to my attention that the Tele bridge pickup sounds incredibly badass, with that twangy clean tone and thick distortion. However, I really hate the Telecaster feel and playability, and it does not look that great either (imo). I really love Strats though, and I have been trying to find a solution to this through Bare Knuckle with limited success... It has recently come to my attention that Seymour Duncan, Dimarzio, Rio Grande and some others make pickups exactly for this purpose. I do not demand a 100% authentic tele sound, I had a G&L Tribute ASAT Special with an extremely awesome tone, and the guitar was almost worth keeping because of the tone only, but the lack of contours made it uncomfortable to play. A couple of weeks from now I will receive a really, really nice Suhr Classic S and I just have a feeling that it would be a disgrace to the guitar to equip it with something else than Bare Knuckle pickups... As mentioned I do not expect it to sound exactly like a tele but it has to TWANG! I am very well aware of the baseplate option, but the Fender American Deluxe Strat I used to own with 63 Veneer Boards with a baseplate on the bridge pickup did not have a sound that I would describe as particularly twangy. That might also have been due to my main amp at the time, a Mesa Boogie Mini Rectifier. I now use a Axe FX which could probably make a Les Paul twang, but yeah... I am not a fan of the strat bridge pickup sound at all, I have always found it to sound brittle and thin which is probably why I always have used the bridge pickups for distortion only in all of my guitars. Have any of you guys ever tried to approach this?
All answers will be appreciated very much!

EDIT: After fiddlin' around with my Malmsteen-strat I figured I can get some suprisingly decent twang out of this guitar, all stock! However, this guitar is getting a set of Sinners to make it all metal but that means there is hope  :cheesy:
Which pickup in the BKP-range would be most similar to the Dimarzio HS-3?
« Last Edit: June 26, 2015, 07:57:46 PM by Alfi27 »
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Kiichi

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Re: Strat pickups with Tele sound?
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2015, 12:25:10 PM »
You mentioned the baseplate and that is also what I would have said first. Beyond that I donīt really know what would be good for you here. I get my tele-ish sound from splitting a turned around RY bridge (so the coil next to the bridge is active) and combining it with an IT middle. For you in this situation I can really just say that you should mail BKP, they should give you the best recommendation with something this specific and unusual.
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Re: Strat pickups with Tele sound?
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2015, 12:31:34 PM »
You mentioned the baseplate and that is also what I would have said first. Beyond that I donīt really know what would be good for you here. I get my tele-ish sound from splitting a turned around RY bridge (so the coil next to the bridge is active) and combining it with an IT middle. For you in this situation I can really just say that you should mail BKP, they should give you the best recommendation with something this specific and unusual.

Crawler-split = good tele-twang in a HSS-strat.

I don't know if the HS-3 has a close BKP-equivalent, but the Trilogy Suite has about the same voicing.

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Re: Strat pickups with Tele sound?
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2015, 01:17:28 PM »
Right, how could I forget the Crawler split...I even have that myself. Good thing youīre here telerocker. =)
BKPs in use: 10th set / RY set / Holy Diver b, Emerald n / Crawler bridge, Slowhand mid MQ neck/ Manhattan n
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darkbluemurder

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Re: Strat pickups with Tele sound?
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2015, 02:30:42 PM »
Have you considered getting a hardtail strat? Getting that with a La Burrito V bridge from Marc Rutters is probably the closest way to get a tele tone in a strat form factor.

The issue is that much of the telecaster tone comes from the bridge construction - the steel base plate plus the double brass saddles are the main reason the telecaster has the attack and punch that no other guitar has. Even if you put a tele bridge pickup on a strat it will not make it sound like a tele. 

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Re: Strat pickups with Tele sound?
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2015, 06:48:27 PM »
Not cheap, but looks a nice tele-strat-hybrid.

http://www.destroyallguitars.com/pdf/Telstar.pdf
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Alfi27

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Re: Strat pickups with Tele sound?
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2015, 07:57:09 PM »
Thank you all for your answers! I do not demand a 100% authentic tele-sound and the HS-3 is twangy enough, but it does lack some power and sounds quite thin and brittle especially when distorted... I have considered to just custom order a G&L ASAT with arm and rear contours, as well as the new OLS body option (Original Leo Spec) which makes the body thinner, I guess that would be very close to the strat feel but it is so expensive, ugh...
Bare Knuckle did not have any particularly good solutions either...
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Alfi27

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Re: Strat pickups with Tele sound?
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2015, 09:48:15 PM »
I have realized that I have to just get a Telecaster to get that Tele-tone, and that is okay. It's hard to say what I am going to do with this Suhr, but I want to have a strat with a classic strat tone, think SRV and Frusciante. I have a Fender Yngwie Malmsteen Strat with Sinners and a Suhr Rasmus S100 with A Crawler in the bridge and Suhr MLs in the neck and middle. The Rasmus might get Mother's Milk in the neck and middle (I see that is a BKP recommended HSS-set) so the classic strat tone will be pretty well covered there. What do you think about the Trilogies? Are the clean tones completely useless? Will they be too similar to the Sinners? I rarely use the bridge pickup for anything else than overdrive and distortion so maybe some lower output pickups in the neck and middle and a hotter one in the bridge? Please notice that I am looking for diversity and variation, and I do not want the guitars to sound the same, at least to the extent of what is possible within single coils.
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