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Khold Des Urgehal

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Seeking raw, cold and thick Black Metal sound
« on: June 26, 2015, 09:06:17 AM »
Hey everyone! I've heard some great things about Bare Knuckle pickups (and have heard some great sounds from them too!) and I was looking into buying a pair for one of my guitars. I'm looking for a dirty, raw, cold, treble-y but also thick Black Metal type of sound. Here are a few links of the type of sound I'm looking for.

Cultes Des Ghoules
https://youtu.be/L-SeSDEnUBA

Khold -- song skips for some reason towards the beginning
https://youtu.be/LP9EreNsuWc

Urgehal
https://youtu.be/BbLQxBB15Gc

So maybe just a set of Cold Sweats or Black Hawks would help get me there? I will primarily be using the bridge pickup for this sound but knowing what a good match for it would be cool for any additional tones. Hopefully this is the right place for this kind of question and hopefully nobody's ears get too offended!  :grin:

Thanks in advance for the help and recommendations!  :smiley:

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Re: Seeking raw, cold and thick Black Metal sound
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2015, 01:40:36 PM »
Cold Sweat bridge or, if using a Telecaster, a Piledriver.

They are probably the only two BKPs I'd recommend for that style.

Neck you might want to look at a Riff Raff

There's another version of that Khold clip that doesn't skip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDEFvmFa9qY

I like the Tom G. Warrior style string bends on that by the way

The guitar soudn on the Cultes Des Ghoules tracks sounded a bit like a more raw version of Dark Fortress

The Urgehal clip did not work.

I found this one though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVNS0nnrIQw

« Last Edit: June 26, 2015, 01:47:16 PM by Agent Orange »
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nordra

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Re: Seeking raw, cold and thick Black Metal sound
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2015, 08:22:07 PM »
I recommend  Painkiller or Cbomb in the bridge for black metal.

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Re: Seeking raw, cold and thick Black Metal sound
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2015, 02:36:13 AM »
+1 for the ceramic nailbomb
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Re: Seeking raw, cold and thick Black Metal sound
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2015, 05:56:03 AM »
Awesome. Thank you to everyone for the responses so far and thank you to Agent Orange as well for finding some better clips of those tunes!  :grin: Glad you liked the bends in that Khold song! They are one of my favorite bands.  :evil:

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Re: Seeking raw, cold and thick Black Metal sound
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2015, 02:30:46 PM »
No worries.

A lot will depend on how the sound of the pickups interacts with the acoustic sound of your guitar though.

I have an A-Pig that I first used in my Epiphone '58 Korina Explorer.  Tuned to C# standard it was very dark and while I could get Black Sabbath 'Masters of Reality' or 'Volume IV' sounds out of it I could not get anything close to Venom (who use the same tuning), as that guitar with those pickups was way too dark. Recently I moved the same pickup into my Gibson SG Special Faded (the Worn Yellow version with the thin paint) and I am not only able to to get an early Venom sound but I have to turn the treble down a little bit!  The pickups sound much brighter and cutting but still with the throaty roar that they had in the Explorer.  I can get Sabbath too but I do need to turn the tone down even more to do so, whereas before with the Explorer the tone was wide open.

Based on my experience a Warpig might even do for you, depending on the guitar.  It would want to be a bright guitar though. C-Pig might be a safer bet than an A-Pig

Cold Sweat, C-Bomb, Painkiller, C-Pig, and possibly C-Hawk or Miracle Man would be the safer options.  I would definitely recommend a ceramic pickup for this application.  You want a lot of bite and cut. Cold Sweat would be the most versatile - you can definitely get a lot of early '80s sounds like Judas Priest out of those - and C-Pig and Miracle Man would have the thickest bottom end. C-Bomb and Painkiller would be the 'hairiest' (think Sepultura, Ratos de Porao, or other bands with that Brazilian hardcore guitar sound) out of the options mentioned.
BLACK HAWKS
IMPULSES
COBRA-T
WAR PIGS
STOCKHOLM
COLD SWEATS
MIRACLE MAN
TRUE GRIT

https://slovendoom.bandcamp.com/releases