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New member - suggestions for a "modern-paf" neck
« on: June 29, 2015, 11:52:42 AM »
Hi everyone. I'm new, my name's Cristian, and I live in Italy, near Venice.

I'd like to ask a pup suggestion, if someone can help.
I recently bought a PRS Tremonti Custom SE in limited edition, with ebony fretboard and EMG 81-85 set. I didn' like te EMG that much, they're great to pley Metallica, but they lack in almost everything else. I know a lot of people like 85 clean sounds too... but I don't.
So, I decide to change evreything and swap to passive. I found a PRS 59/09 treble at very good price for the bridge position, and I used a DiMarzio Paf 36th Anniversary that I originally had in another guitar for the neck position. This coupling sounded killer to me, I liked very much the 36th in the other guitar, and the 59/09 bass would have been way too expensive.
Anyway, while the 59/09 treble sounds really wonderful, probably the best bridge pup I've ever played, the 36th in neck position seems a little bit flat now. Maybe it's because of the cover I put on it? The wiring is OK, the luthier turned the mag inside the 36th to avoid counterphasing, and he did an excellent job. The middle positions are great, so it works really well with the PRS; but when i play the neck alone it's like it lacks something...
So, I'd be willing to replace it. I originally had it in a Chapman ML-2 (great guitar and excellent value for the money!), with a Duncan Custom in the bridge. They were a great pair. But I was looking for a "Petrucci" sound, so i replaced them with a Cold Sweat in the neck and a Crunch Lab in the bridge. The CS is just awsome; the CL sounded very aggressive and punchy in the first times, but soon I got tired, it was too muddy and "c--ked wah", even turining it upside down. So I went back with my old Custom, and I found the perfect combo for that guitar.
Now, for the PRS, I was looking for a "modern PAF" sound, organic and smooth but with an aggressive twist. The PRS 59/09 bass would be great, but it's too expensive. So I was considering another BKP. As I told you, I love the Cold Sweat, but I would prefer different sounds on my gears. My idea is a "middle way" between the Paf 36th sound and the CS, a modern paf with a "liquid" twist. Something that could work covered, since the 59/09 treble is a "squabbins" model, and pairing it with a regular pup would be quite unbareable to watch.
Any suggestion? Is the Mule too vintage? Black Dog? The Crawler? Anything else?

Thanx to everyone!

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Re: New member - suggestions for a "modern-paf" neck
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2015, 01:02:59 PM »
neck vhII?
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Re: New member - suggestions for a "modern-paf" neck
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2015, 01:34:51 PM »
^ this does seem like a good suggestion
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Re: New member - suggestions for a "modern-paf" neck
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2015, 01:51:17 PM »
Thanx for your suggestions... Could you please say something more? Why VHII? I read somewhere that it's a little too scooped and dark in neck position, while there are a lot of Crawler (or Abraxas) enthusiasts...

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Re: New member - suggestions for a "modern-paf" neck
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2015, 02:14:12 PM »
it's certainly not middy and bright like a neck cold sweat, but not scooped or dark either
it's like a fatter neck mule


the neck crawler sounds like a good idea, though, but I never played that one
« Last Edit: June 29, 2015, 02:16:29 PM by Eric Hellstyle »
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Re: New member - suggestions for a "modern-paf" neck
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2015, 02:22:19 PM »
Thanx!  :grin:

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Re: New member - suggestions for a "modern-paf" neck
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2015, 02:51:09 PM »
I'd go for a mule in that guitar over a vhii personally.

Mule neck in a single cut > Any thing else

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Re: New member - suggestions for a "modern-paf" neck
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2015, 02:59:30 PM »
Thanx. A Mule would be a convenient solution, since I could buy one in second hand close to my home. But wouldn't it be maybe too vintage sounding? Isn't it flat when covered? I would mainly play hard rock and heavy rock, some metal, and occasionally classic rock and blues.

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Re: New member - suggestions for a "modern-paf" neck
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2015, 08:50:56 PM »
Emerald fits the bill perfectly
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Neck - Emerald; Cold Sweat; Crawler; Holydiver; Sinner; Trilogy Suite

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Re: New member - suggestions for a "modern-paf" neck
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2015, 10:28:20 PM »
Thanx, Buddy. Why do you suggest Emerald? In which way is it better than The Mule or VHII?

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Re: New member - suggestions for a "modern-paf" neck
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2015, 10:46:36 PM »
The beauty of the emerald is from the way it combines the vintage style AIV magnet for a sweet, natural sound with a modern wire and wind giving it contemporary cut and presence. It is the absolute in between meeting of vintage and modern in that way. It delivers great cleans, rocks blues sounds, and yet is also one of the best modern shred pickups, always retaining character. Fluid, warm, and sweet, yet with more modern attack, sustain, definition, etc.

Itīs a great one, that is for sure. With BKPs you pretty much always face the issue that there is no one choice. There are always multiple pickups that will do the job greatly, perhaps even equally amazingly, but all in different ways, with different flavors. =)
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Re: New member - suggestions for a "modern-paf" neck
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2015, 10:49:20 PM »
I thought about the Emerald but it doesn't seem to appeal to people who want something 'shreddy' like a Cold Sweat.  VHII neck seems like the only one in the more vintage style that falls into that category with the Cold Sweat and Rebel Yell.

The Emerald is a great pickup if your lead style is more like Brian Robertson than John Sykes.
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Re: New member - suggestions for a "modern-paf" neck
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2015, 11:58:43 PM »
Finally, some arguments. Thank you so much. It seems it's VHII vs Emerald, then... :D
I like both Skyes and Robertson, maybe my style is more on the Robertson's side...

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Re: New member - suggestions for a "modern-paf" neck
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2015, 04:01:06 AM »
I agree with what Kiichi says about the Emerald, having installed one in a friend's Les Paul, it is very fluid and suited to 'singing' type leads.  The Cold Sweat (which I have in my SG Standard) is more of an '80s shred type pickup if that makes sense, great for hammers, sweeps, that kind of thing.  From what I've heard about the VHII it is somewhere between the two.  All of them should give nice cleans.

Emerald neck 2:48 (gain) 3:52 (clean)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6OAohhfm5Y


VHII neck clean:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTGpBNX5iu4

VHII neck gain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhOl9MHbwjc
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Re: New member - suggestions for a "modern-paf" neck
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2015, 06:51:24 AM »
Thank you so much for your comments and for the videos! They really really help!!  :afro:
You really made me curious about the Emerald, guys. I think it would be the way to go.  :grin: