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Tried a Jim Root Terror
« on: November 04, 2015, 01:39:04 PM »
and I must say I liked it alot. I found it to be a really versatile amp considering the tones available. Its not just for metal either. Theres plenty of British sounding mid range. Its probably my favourite of the terror range.

I didn't spring for it though. It wasn't the tone I was after. Still too British and not quite vicious enough for my target. But still - good amp, worth checking out.

(edit: still eyeing the 6505MH)
« Last Edit: November 04, 2015, 01:42:01 PM by gwEm »
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Re: Tried a Jim Root Terror
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2015, 02:42:15 PM »
Oh I know. If I had the money I´d get one myself. Good range of sounds, proper EQ, loop,....especially EQ and loop are things I am missing on my TT.
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Re: Tried a Jim Root Terror
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2015, 04:26:56 PM »
Doesn't surprise me, Orange makes some great amps, especially the lunchbox range is cool. The moment I plugged in the Micro Terror I had to have it. The little bar-steward does even metal with a TS in front and a proper 4*12  :cool:

If you're eyeing the 6505 mini, the EVH 5150 III LBX 15watt might be something to consider as well. So gasing for one right now, maybe I'll get it as a christmas present from myself to myself  :grin:

Great comparison between the two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWrtNIvEWBE

The 6505 seems to have a tad more features, but if the EVH truly sounds anything like it's big brothers, I wouldn't think twice.

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Re: Tried a Jim Root Terror
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2015, 04:28:15 PM »
Lol at the autocorrect from  b a s t a r d  to bar-steward xD
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Re: Tried a Jim Root Terror
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2015, 05:43:26 PM »
Quote from: GuitarIv on November 04, 2015, 04:26:56 PM
Doesn't surprise me, Orange makes some great amps, especially the lunchbox range is cool. The moment I plugged in the Micro Terror I had to have it. The little bar-steward does even metal with a TS in front and a proper 4*12  :cool:

If you're eyeing the 6505 mini, the EVH 5150 III LBX 15watt might be something to consider as well. So gasing for one right now, maybe I'll get it as a christmas present from myself to myself  :grin:

Great comparison between the two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWrtNIvEWBE

The 6505 seems to have a tad more features, but if the EVH truly sounds anything like it's big brothers, I wouldn't think twice.

Cheers

you know what, i'd really like to like the mini-Rectifier. I wanted to test it today but it wasn't in stock. I took the morning off work to go amp shopping.

The thing is all the demos I heard of the mini-rectifier are disappointing, and all the demos are heard of the 6505MH are right on the money.

I'm tempted to buy the 6505MH without having heard in real life, but I want to give the mini rectifier a chance and I don't think its a good idea to buy an amp without trying.

I'll look into a 5150 III LBX.... but for be a 5150 should be a Peavey, call me old fashioned!
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Re: Tried a Jim Root Terror
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2015, 06:16:49 PM »
Quote from: GuitarIv on November 04, 2015, 04:26:56 PM
Great comparison between the two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWrtNIvEWBE

you know what, that is a good comparison. I liked both, but I listened blind and preferred the Peavey every time. It just has that slightly meaner edge to it. I can toally see why you like the EVH though, it is sweeter and has much to recommend it.
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Re: Tried a Jim Root Terror
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2015, 10:20:17 AM »
I used to own both the Jim Root Terror and Mini Rectifier, but I sold both this weekend... For home use, they are just too loud. My EVH 5150III 50w actually sounds much, much better than these two bar-stewards at low volume levels, but the EVH is just sick. It sounds almost exactly the same at every volume level! One of the best amps, if not THE best amp I have ever owned. For some reason EL84 tubes just sounds "small" and lacking in some way to my ears. Maybe it works better with EL84s in lower gain amps, but for metal you need more power and bottom end, and less power amp distortion to keep it tight. The JRT is never tight though, but with a boost in the front it is usable. The Minirec is not especially tight either, but at least more tight. That amp could also use a boost in the front. Not to bash the thread or anything, but this is my experience (unfortunately)...
I sold them both to fund a Line 6 Helix. That is just one badass piece of gear! Got it home last night to try it, before I buy it. I strongly recommend you guys to try it if you get the chance! I am convinced that the future is digital, and valve amps are really outdated. They are heavy, way too loud (every amp with more than 1 watt) and quite limiting tone wise. But now I am going off topic, sorry for that. Peace out, hope you got a little bit wiser from my little speech here!
Edit: bar-stewards, nice....
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Re: Tried a Jim Root Terror
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2015, 09:16:46 AM »
I agree the Jim Root Terror wasn't particularly tight. Its kind of what I liked about it. Its got a looser Marshally low end I think.

Actually I didn't think it could be Jim Root's signature amp since it you could view it as a rock rather than metal amp.
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Re: Tried a Jim Root Terror
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2015, 03:17:48 PM »
Yes exactly, I found it very similar to the Rockerverb tonally, and it sounded great for everything up to hard rock.
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Re: Tried a Jim Root Terror
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2015, 06:03:22 PM »
Quote from: Alfi27 on November 12, 2015, 03:17:48 PM
Yes exactly, I found it very similar to the Rockerverb tonally, and it sounded great for everything up to hard rock.
It is based on that one IIRC, so no surprise. If you think it is not tight enough for metal....Root does play EMG loaded teles, so that might help. I guess the alternative would be a top boost OD for a normal guitar to get this one to do metal well?
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Re: Tried a Jim Root Terror
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2015, 11:23:46 PM »
With an EMG-equipped guitar you will still need an overdrive or boost in the front to make it usable for metal. Root himself uses a Maxon OD808, I used a Mesa Boogie Grid Slammer with good results as well. Any TS-style pedal really. The Mini Rectifier sounded godly with the Grid Slammer, but I am not a pedal guy at all, unless I can make a preset and the pedal turns itself on and off as I move between presets, haha! That is why I love the EVH 5150, you do not need any pedals ever, because it is so god damn tight by itself.
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Re: Tried a Jim Root Terror
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2015, 12:45:48 AM »
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With an EMG-equipped guitar you will still need an overdrive or boost in the front to make it usable for metal. Root himself uses a Maxon OD808, I used a Mesa Boogie Grid Slammer with good results as well. Any TS-style pedal really. The Mini Rectifier sounded godly with the Grid Slammer, but I am not a pedal guy at all, unless I can make a preset and the pedal turns itself on and off as I move between presets, haha! That is why I love the EVH 5150, you do not need any pedals ever, because it is so god damn tight by itself.
[/quote]Good info, thanks. Good thing is that when (or if ) I ever ger Jim Root I have the gear to get it there. Overall still seems bloody good for the money.[quote author=Alfi27
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Re: Tried a Jim Root Terror
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2015, 07:46:29 AM »
Yeah, it is a nice amp that goes from clean to mean, and anywhere inbetween with a twist of the gain knob. You have to like the Orange tone though, it is very distinct with a lot of bass and low mids. No problem cutting through with the right cab though. I ordered a Rockerverb MKIII with a PPC112 because I could not afford any larger. Beautiful clean tones, one of the best I have heard actually. A lot tighter than the MKII and JRT, but still not quite tight enough for heavy metal and metalcore. Long story short: very nice amp, but I had to return it... I just could not get myself to spend to spend 1500£ on an amp that does not excel in the genres I play most of the time; metal!
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Re: Tried a Jim Root Terror
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2015, 09:57:35 AM »
It depends a bit of the type of metal you play I guess. It does have more than enough gain for any style of metal, but the tightness and tonality don't particularly suit what one might consider to be a modern metal tone.

If you were doing something a bit more classic, some types of thrash metal for example, NWOBHM, Maiden, Priest, Motorhead etc. it would work well on its own. Or doom of course.

Before I tried it I did a lot of reading on the Jim Root Terror, and it is definitely the Rockerverb preamp circuit.

If I didn't have a Marshall already I'd be very tempted. But for me it would cover too many of the same bases as what I have.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2015, 10:00:52 AM by gwEm »
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Re: Tried a Jim Root Terror
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2015, 10:00:15 PM »
Tried a Rockerverb MKIII again today (on a 4x12" Orange cab) and it actually sounded amazing! Surprisingly tight, enough for most metal styles, even some modern metal if used with EMG pickups. I know it is not really comparable to the JRT, but it sounds miles better and with the excellent attenuator it is more suited for home use. The clean channel is also really good as well as I have mentioned before. Only 3,5 times the price  :cheesy:
If you can live with the size, the weight and of course the price I would say that it is no question really, but I know most of the guys who are interested in the JRT are in the market for a lunchbox amp...
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