Need help, can't record with my EVH 5150 50w

[one]

I joined a band not long ago, my guitar mate has a powerball I 100w. I bought a 5150 50w with which I'm immensely happy. We are trying to record a demo. His guitars are already on it. Yesterday I tried to record mine, it's through a sound card and into cubase in an old computer. The other guitarrist sounds pretty loud while I can't make myself heard in the mix, just a very low, barely audible sound. There's even almost no spectre at the cubase track when I play, in case this might help. I just plug my preamp out to the sound card and was wondering what do I do wrong. Probably something stupid but I'm inexperienced in recording to a sc. Anyone?

Pream out into a line6 ux1 and this into cubase 5

[Dave Sloven]

I've only ever used a good microphone against the speaker.  I guess I'm just old school, or is that how most people do it?

[one]

Just adapting to the band. They all are reconding like this. No clue?

[Dave Sloven]

I would guess that it is something to do with the line level.  If you look at your friend's amp I think you will find that he is using something other than just a preamp out, which is usually used to drive another power amp.  Perhaps he has an additional speaker emulation box or something connected to the speaker out?  I don't actually see a 'preamp out' like yours on the back of the ENGL Powerball, just an effects loop with a level control.

http://www.englamps.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Manuals/English/OM_E645_Powerball.pdf

[northlane.josh]

I would guess that it is something to do with the line level.  If you look at your friend's amp I think you will find that he is using something other than just a preamp out, which is usually used to drive another power amp.  Perhaps he has an additional speaker emulation box or something connected to the speaker out?  I don't actually see a 'preamp out' like yours on the back of the ENGL Powerball, just an effects loop with a level control.

http://www.englamps.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Manuals/English/OM_E645_Powerball.pdf

Also, just gain up the channel's preamp in your DAW/soundcard

[one]

I would guess that it is something to do with the line level.  If you look at your friend's amp I think you will find that he is using something other than just a preamp out, which is usually used to drive another power amp.  Perhaps he has an additional speaker emulation box or something connected to the speaker out?  I don't actually see a 'preamp out' like yours on the back of the ENGL Powerball, just an effects loop with a level control.

http://www.englamps.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Manuals/English/OM_E645_Powerball.pdf

You are right, my friend's amp has no 'preamp out', he just sends the signal and later he puts the impulse for the cab or something like that, otherwise you only listen the ENGl head and the sound is very harsh. That's what I know about how he makes it.

[Plenum n Heather]

The Line 6 UX series is meant to take your guitar's DIRECT INPUT (DI) and add modeling to it to simulate a mic'd guitar amplifier. Running the preamp out of your amp into a line level input will just be a fizzy mess until you apply IRs simulating the rest of the chain (amp, microphone, room).

Please note: if you are using a valve head and are not connecting a loudspeaker, you must put a load onto the head or it will blow up; valve amps must see a load at all times. Some amps have an internal load, but you have to make sure yours does if you are running the head without a cab attached.

A far better option would be to invest in an inexpensive USB interface and an SM57, mic the guitar cab, and let 'er rip. Behringer and Focusrite both make units that are very affordable.

When you say an 'old' computer, how old are we talking about here?

Recording ANYTHING is basically the same: get it right AT THE SOURCE and you will save yourself much time and trouble later.

[Dave Sloven]

if you are using a valve head and are not connecting a loudspeaker, you must put a load onto the head or it will blow up; valve amps must see a load at all times. Some amps have an internal load, but you have to make sure yours does if you are running the head without a cab attached.

A far better option would be to invest in an inexpensive USB interface and an SM57, mic the guitar cab, and let 'er rip. Behringer and Focusrite both make units that are very affordable.

+1 on all of this.  Decent microphone to a cab is always the best starting point

[one]

It seems like I found the solution, someone recommended this: :)

Make sure amp is connected to cab. Take a 1/4 inch jack and pop that sucker into your headphone out in the back of the amp to silence the cab (try and get a 1/4 inch dummy piece like the ones that come with headphones)

Then take the preamp out from the back of the 5150 iii and plug that cable into your audio interface.

That's it, you can direct record the head, and use Impulse Responses for whatever cabinets you love. I use this method on all my recordings, and it sounds killer. \

Also, I called Fender before buying the amp, and they said that this solution is the best way and safest way to direct record