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Atomic AmpliFire Review
« on: June 09, 2016, 08:50:32 PM »
Let me say from the outset that I am not a great fan of modelling technology and for a number of years now I’ve clung religiously to my precious valve amps so I’m not naturally inclined to be sympathetic to such an approach. In the past I’ve owned both a Digitech GNX3000 and a Digitech RP1000, both of which, in their day, could be considered units of very good quality. I wasn’t impressed with either of them particularly. They both had their good points and I could see why people liked them but ultimately, to be brutally honest, regardless of how much you tweaked them, in the real world the tones weren’t a patch on a ‘proper’ valve amp. Over the years since I’ve read stellar reviews on offerings from Boss and particularly the Line6 HD series so I’ve tried them with great anticipation that finally I could have a more compact and versatile rig but the tones just aren’t there. To me, using a good valve amp is like driving a Ferrari whereas using most mid-priced modellers is like driving a Toyota GT86 at best. It’s generally aimed at a market with similar tastes and is good in its own way, but ultimately it’s a cheap and poor copy of the real thing.

So how have I come to be reviewing an Atomic AmpliFire? Pure chance, a unique set of circumstances and Telerocker planting the idea in my head is the answer! I’d honestly given up on ever finding a modeller that I actually liked but a few months ago I was offered a job working abroad and this forced me to completely rethink my rig. Taking a valve amp with me was a non-starter, partly due to the practicalities of transport but also because for the next few years my playing will mostly be in the home. After much deliberation I decided to invest in a BluGuitar AMP1 and I was very pleasantly surprised by the quality of the tones I could get. It’s not as good as a full valve amp but the tones were very good and very valve-like; certainly good enough for 99.9% of an audience and certainly a huge improvement on anything I’d tried before. Thanks to Telerocker’s comment to me, this got me thinking – the AMP1 is essentially modelled preamp voicings going through a 100w Class D power amp with a valve in it to generate some valve warmth and if the tones were that good, what could a modeller achieve with even more processing power? I knew the likes of Line6 HD units wouldn’t get me there and I can’t afford a Fractal Axe-FX so I needed something in the middle ground that was a bit of a stripped down Axe-FX and surprisingly, the AmpliFire is the only option that I could find that seemed to offer what I was after. It doesn’t offer the range of options that either Line6 or Fractal do but I really don’t need that many options. What it does offer is processing power that is far more like Fractal than Line6 and that makes all the difference because it focusses on quality rather than quantity.

Layout

The AmpliFire is a floor unit that’s not much bigger than two good sized pedals or to put it another way, about the size of my AMP1. There is a small display screen on the top and a number of knobs for key controls like Gain, EQ and Level. Working these knobs is very like a conventional guitar amp in many ways. There’s also a control to adjust patches, which is pretty straightforward, though using the Editor on your PC is easier. At the front of the unit are three footswitches that can be assigned to control whatever you want. With the A/B function these three footswitches can move you between six different presets or you can use a Midi controller like the Midi Mouse to move between presets and use the footswitches on the AmpliFire for any three effects you want, just like conventional stompboxes. The connections on the unit will allow you to connect to virtually anything and you can also route it so that cabinet models are bypassed and you use your own cabinet or you can have cabinet models sent to the PA while you can have no cabinet models going to a normal guitar cabinet or you can have cabinet models going to both. There’s certainly flexibility here.

Editor Software

As with all of these units, although you can edit your parameters on the unit itself, life is an awful lot easier when you use the associated computer software. It’s not just that more parameters are available to you; it’s more that the whole process becomes much quicker as everything is available on one screen. As far as these units go, the Editor is very accessible and straightforward to use so I can see lots of people liking it but at the moment I find there is a real issue, at least to someone of my limited technical ability.

The latest version of the Editor that you download is not the same as the one referred to in the manual as it has many more parameters that you can adjust. This creates a real problem because you’re suddenly faced with a load of terms that might as well be written in Latin for all the sense it makes to me and these terms aren’t explained in the handbook, where the editing information is based on an earlier and far more basic Editor. At first I thought it was because the unit I bought had an old handbook so I downloaded the manual from Atomic’s website, only to discover it was the same as mine and related to a much earlier version. If you’re going to have a manual, it needs to relate to the product people are actually using!

While I can see that many people might like to use these extra parameters to precisely tailor their sound, I’m afraid I’m inclined to question the wisdom of such an approach. Not only do I have to make sense of a load of technical terms I don’t understand but when I use a conventional stompbox, how many controls do I have to adjust? Even professional players, using professional quality stompboxes , have only a handful of controls that can be adjusted to get a fantastic sound, yet when trying to use something like the Echo effect on an AmpliFire, I have 36 different parameters that require attention to dial in the sound I’m after. 36!!! Why? If you can buy a Delay pedal in the £100-£150 bracket that produces a really good effect with only 3-5 control knobs, why do I need 36 different controls in the AmpliFire? I want good quality effects and the effects here are good, no doubt about it, but I don’t want to have to spend the rest of my life tweaking settings and researching terms I don’t know. To me, this is exactly what’s wrong with all of these modellers and while the AmpliFire is better than many in this regard, the editing software is still needlessly complex and probably quite daunting to many users. In the case of the Echo effect I’ve already mentioned, once I’ve selected the type of Echo I want, all I really want to do is adjust the level, mix, delay time and number of repeats – keep it simple and keep it effective.

Amp Models

To me, this was the acid test of the unit because this is where most multi-fx units really disappoint with tones that are far too digital and artificial in nature. On first firing up the AmpliFire I was tempted to think that this unit was an improvement on others but essentially suffering from the same problem but that was before I made a key discovery. My initial thought was to either use the factory presets as a basis for developing my own patches or to download presets made by other people and use those as the foundation of my own sounds. The problem was that they invariably had a number of effects in operation and there was too much going on for me to determine where the problem lay. Instead, I turned all of the effects off and started from scratch – it works a lot better. I started by selecting a model of an amp I knew I liked, such as a Fender Twin, Plexi and JCM800 in my case, and then adjusted things in a logical order so I determined gain and EQ first to get the basic tone before going on to adjust the more obscure parameters that exist. I found it most effective to fully engage the power amp simulator, which is designed to emulate the valve warmth you get from a real valve amp and I did this even though the power amp I’m using from the AMP1 already has a small valve in it for just such a purpose. I guess the two combined just increases the valve-like tone but either way, it works very well. Once that was to my liking, I moved on to selecting cabinets. I’m running my AmpliFire through an Orange 1X12 loaded with a Vintage 30 speaker so at first I naturally selected ‘None’ but I soon discovered that if I selected ‘Matched’ instead, I was rewarded with a much bigger sound and although it could initially be a bit boomy, with some tweaking to the EQ and cabinet settings, I could get a really good sound that was actually an improvement on using just my own cabinet. After that it’s just a matter of adding effects as you like them in much the same way.

So what’s the bottom line on these amp models then? Well, as with most things, there are pros and cons. Getting a really good amp tone out of the AmpliFire takes quite a bit longer than doing so with a conventional valve amp due to the myriad of parameters that need to be adjusted but once you get there, the results are very impressive. This unit does not give you a 100% accurate representation of real valve tone, but it is VERY close and significantly closer than anything else you’re likely to try below £1000. The Line6 HD unit doesn’t come even remotely close so I’m inclined to see this as more of a competitor for the Helix. Inevitably, some amp models are better than others but they’re all very good. Of the three I used first, the JCM800 was the weakest, even though it was still impressive but the Twin was excellent and the Plexi model was absolutely sublime. I’ve added other amp models to my presets now and every one of them has been impressive, with particular credit going to the AC30 tone I was able to create. I find that usually with modellers, the more gain you try to use, the worse it gets but today I created a patch for a Rectifier sound and it’s so good I could easily see me using it live or for recording. They all have a very realistic quality about them and they encourage you to want to play.

Effects

As I’ve already touched on the annoyingly long list of parameters that need to be adjusted, I’ll restrict myself to talking about the quality of the effects on offer. I'm not a huge user of effects, with a Compressor, Boost, Delay and Reverb being about it and maybe the odd bit of Chorus but having played around with most of them and set the ones I always use, I'd say I find these to be very much like the amp models in that they are all very good, even if there isn’t the range of options offered by rivals like the Line6 HD. At the moment, for instance, you either have the Chorus on or off, with no facility to select a particular type of Chorus but as you might guess by now, that’s fine by me; a Chorus is a Chorus. This isn’t the same for all effects as there are a few different types of Boost you can choose and a few different types of Echo etc. and more are promised with further firmware updates but it’s fair to say that the selection isn’t as extensive as some units. I don’t find that a problem but I accept that some might. What is on offer here is all of the fundamental effects you’re likely to use and all of them are excellent.

Conclusions

I don’t have a major issue with anything about this unit as it’s all excellent quality in a compact package that works well but if I was being picky, there are a few things I would look to change on any future incarnation. Even though it would make the unit bigger, I would like to have had an assignable expression pedal attached so that I didn’t have to cart around an individual pedal to have control of the Wah effect when the Wah that’s in the AmpliFire is basically very good. I also don’t see why the only way you can attach an expression pedal to the device is by using the Effects Return, thereby removing your ability to use an effects loop with the AmpliFire. Finally, I would have liked to see the USB connection doubling as an audio interface, as it does on the Line6 but I accept that each of these modifications would have price implications and I’m equally sure that I may not want to pay that much more. It’s a balancing act for Atomic and overall I can’t complain.

The BluGuitar AMP1 was the first modelling unit I’ve ever tried that hasn’t had me longing to return to a valve amp and the AmpliFire has moved me even further away from that desire. It’s not exactly the same as a real valve amp and individual pedals but it is very close, offers far more tonal possibilities and is significantly more compact and portable. The best way I can describe it is to revisit the analogy I used at the start of this review. I still don’t feel like I’m driving a Ferrari because like a real valve amp, that car has something special about it that is more than the sum of its parts but I equally don’t feel like I’m driving a Toyota GT86 in comparison either. Now it’s more like driving a McLaren because in all sorts of ways it’s as good as, or better, than the Ferrari, yet somehow just misses that little bit of magic that you get from the original. I’d love a Ferrari but I’m more than happy with my McLaren.
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Re: Atomic AmpliFire Review
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2016, 11:19:54 PM »
Interesting and comprehensive review.  I'm glad to hear you're enjoying it.  I have to say, you say that you can understand on price grounds the omission of a dedicated expression pedal jack, sacrificing the effects loop; personally I think that one's just about unforgivable.  Ultimately, I think pretty much all of these high tech bits of gear, just like computers and software, feel a bit like works in progress rather than the finished article, so I'm sure it won't be long til there's an updated version to make you wish you'd waited! :)

I've been tempted by the idea of the Line 6 Helix myself, but as you mentioned, it is a bit pricey for something you're not sure about
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Re: Atomic AmpliFire Review
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2016, 07:23:45 AM »
Actually, not having a dedicated jack plug for an expression pedal is a bit daft at this price point, it was more a general point that upgrades invariably affect the price. In my case it's not the end of the world as I simply put my Wah in front of the AmpliFire but as there's a decent Wah effect onboard, it seems silly not to be able to use it. As I don't use the effects loop I could buy and use an expression pedal for it but it seems a waste of time when I already have a Crybaby anyway. If the expression pedal had been built in I know I would have assigned it to Wah and sold my Crybaby.

The technology is certainly moving quickly, to the point where I can see more and more people moving away from lugging great heavy valve amps around so improvements are inevitable. I'm sure the Helix is fantastic but at more than twice the price for more options I won't use, I think I'm happier as I am.
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Re: Atomic AmpliFire Review
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2016, 06:13:08 PM »
Ahhh Slarti, man I'm happy you took that step. Yes, the Amplifire demands a bit of a learning curve, but the sounds are impressive for such a unit. I saw a guy sticking the Amplifire into the FX-path of his Rectifier and is more pleased with his sound now. It's a brilliant, but still affordable unit. I hope you have a lot of (tweaking) fun with it.
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Re: Atomic AmpliFire Review
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2016, 07:35:06 PM »
Thanks mate, I wouldn't have done it if you hadn't planted the seed in my head and, in fairness, if the AMP1 hadn't been so good. I still find it hard to believe I have all of the effects I need, loads of awesome amp tones and a 100w power amp that doubles as an entire amp in itself if needed, all on one pedalboard! I've had this rig together for a few weeks now and I still have absolutely zero desire to go back to lugging a valve amp around. I'll happily concede that it's not quite the same quality of tone as a real valve amp but it's so damn close and gives you so many other advantages over a valve amp that I'm pretty much certain I'll never buy another valve amp again.
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Re: Atomic AmpliFire Review
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2016, 11:38:17 PM »
I'm really elaborating on the Amplifire. I would  stick it  into the FX-loop of my amps.
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Re: Atomic AmpliFire Review
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2016, 10:46:25 PM »
Great review, thanks. Sounds like a great setup.

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Re: Atomic AmpliFire Review
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2016, 02:41:11 PM »
I thought I'd finished with the band but they've asked me to do one last gig with them on Saturday so I was at band practice with them last night and it gave me the chance to really give it some volume for the first time. I find a band context often shows multi-fx up as they don't cut through the mix as well as proper amps. I used a model of a Twin for cleans, a slightly overdriven Twin for a light crunch, a Plexi for my main distortion sound and a Soldano for the higher gain material. The slightly overdriven Twin needed a touch more volume and I needed to tweak the EQ settings on the Soldano model by dialling back the bass a touch and adding a little to the mids and treble as well as taking a little bottom end off the cabinet model. I also found that once the extra volume was there to drive that tiny valve in the power section of the AMP1, I no longer needed to add the boost pedal to the Plexi or Soldano models as a clean boost to tighten and smooth the signal as my own power amp was saturating things just nicely by itself. I cut through the mix just fine and it sounded incredible. I still have no desire at all to go back to a conventional valve amp as the setup I have now is so light, small and versatile. I never thought I'd live to see the day when digital would take over from valve for me but I just don't see why anyone would rather have something else.
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Re: Atomic AmpliFire Review
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2016, 10:00:04 AM »
Did the gig yesterday, which was an outdoor one with loads of bands involved. The PA was only being used for vocals so the heavy lifting had to be done by my amp for a change rather than our usual approach of keeping amp volumes low and letting the PA do the heavy lifting. Valves are better cranked and digital gets worse so I must have been in trouble. Not a bit of it in reality  :smiley: Despite the number of valve amps in use that day, I had quite a few guitarists approach me at the end, curious to know what I was using as all they could see was a little Orange 1X12 and they thought I had the biggest and best tone of the day. They were surprised to say the least when I pointed to my pedalboard and they realised it was just an AmpliFire into the effects return of an AMP1. In terms of sound it was the best gig for guitar tone I've ever played with the band. At low volumes the AmpliFire is far more effective than a real valve amp, even though the tone isn't entirely 'valve' but at gig volumes, at least the way I've got it set up in my rig, there's no difference at all. Certainly if there was a difference, nobody there was able to tell, including the other guitarists with their heavy valve amps. I've now used this set up at home, in the rehearsal room and at a gig and taking all things into consideration, this is better than any valve amp I've ever used. My wait is over at last and I have my ultimate rig in the most portable format imaginable. These two little boxes combined have made valve amps completely redundant for me as I've not just ended up with a tone that's as good as any valve amp I've owned, overall it's actually better than any valve amp I've ever owned!
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Re: Atomic AmpliFire Review
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2016, 11:40:38 AM »
Great review, Slarti! I am totally convinced that digital amps are the future. Lighter, smaller, more flexible, more versatile, do not require dangerous volume levels to sound good etc. I am on the Kemper train myself, and my Powerhead can easily compete with any tube amp regarding volume. It is like having thousands of amps in one with a really great DI output! :laugh:

Even though I am sure your setup is great and sounds great, there is one other option for people considering the Amplifire: Amplifire + ISP Stealth Pro power amp. I think it is even smaller than the AMP1, but I am not sure how they compare volume wise. The ISP should be plenty for any use, though. And by the way, can you run the Amplifire like the Axe or Kemper? Cab sim on, and cab sim off at different outputs at the same time?
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Re: Atomic AmpliFire Review
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2016, 12:12:18 PM »
And by the way, can you run the Amplifire like the Axe or Kemper? Cab sim on, and cab sim off at different outputs at the same time?

Yes, you can. I have mine set up so I can have cab sims going to both my own guitar cabinet and the PA at the same time using different outputs or I can have cab sims just going to the PA while there are no cab sims going to my own cabinet. To be honest, that's the way I thought I was going to use it and it was only out of curiosity that I turned on the matched cabinet in the patch and I was amazed at the transformation. I don't suppose it would work as well if I was using a 4X12 anyway but for years now I've preferred using a mic'd 1X12 so for me it's fantastic. As soon as I switched to the matched cabinet the sound became bigger, fuller, richer and with a far more pronounced bottom end. Having played it that way for a while I turned the cab sims off and absolutely hated what I was left with. In fairness, although I have it set up to go to both outputs, thus far I've only heard it through my cabinet and I've adjusted the EQ on the amp model and the settings on the cab model to suit that particular speaker so I do wonder what it would sound like through a PA as clearly I have it set for a Vintage 30 speaker. As far as I'm aware, I can't EQ it one way for one output and another way for a different output but that doesn't change the fact that you can do as you asked.

That Stealth Pro looks like a great bit of kit and will surely have more than enough power at a combined 180w as the AMP1 is only 100w. The more diminutive size also appeals to me, though I like having the nanotube in the AMP1 and of course, if the AmpliFire were to fail, I have a built-in backup with the AMP1. I know a few people who run the Kemper and love it. I looked at it myself but eventually concluded that I just didn't need that much versatility. It's the same story with the Axe-FX really - great bit of gear but I couldn't justify twice the price.
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