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« on: April 08, 2006, 06:09:30 PM »
Who makes the best late 50's Les Paul Standard clones, that aren't Gibson? In particular, tobacco sunburst ones.

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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2006, 06:11:14 PM »
I think Tokai would be the best bet

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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2006, 06:31:28 PM »
i dunno can you get a tobacco sunburst gordon smith? theyre supposed to be good LP type guitars...

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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2006, 07:07:12 PM »
which price range?
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2006, 07:10:00 PM »
Roughly the price of a new Gibson LP Standard I guess. Any cheaper would be a bonus.

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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2006, 07:34:18 PM »
epiphone? or is that too obvious. i love my epi les paul standard.
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2006, 07:49:41 PM »
if you're willing to pay the price of a gibson, and a late fifties style les paul is what you want, why not a gibson?  people moan about their quality control, and the ethics of the prs court case are a bit dodgy.  however, if a les paul is what you want you can find good ones.  my own standard is a stunner. overpriced? probably, but cheaper than a prs and nails the fifties vibe, which the prs won't.  and you can walk into a dealers with your cash and take a gibson home, you'll have to wait months on the other "boutique" makes.  
gotta admit though, if you save a few hundred quid and aren't a name snob, those tokai's can be great!
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2006, 08:00:19 PM »
Heritage make a great Les Paul but the headstock is different and kinda ugly, and they're more expensive than a Gibson.

Tokai make a wide range of Les Paul copies, with the high end being superior to a Historic, to the low end being comparable to an epiphone (but probably better).  Tokai Forum has a lot of info about Tokais.  Caution, Tokai also have a Korean brand which is actually quite nice and supposed to be better than an Epi, but is no substitute for a real Gibson (from what I've heard).

If used poses no problem for you Greco made an awesome series of replicas in the 80's called the Mint Collection.  I have a 1982 '59 replica and it's incredible.  1piece mahogany back, 1 piece neck, Flamed maple bookmatched top (not veneer), Brazilian rosewood fretboard.  Simply put, the materials used are better than on my 1981 Gibson Les Paul.  The Neck pickup has a gorgeous tone and the bridge pickup (which was not original) is getting swapped out for a Nailbomb next week, when it finally gets here.

Burny also made a very good Les Paul replica.  ( I use Replica instead of copy when i feel the craftmanship is on par with the original. )

Edwards (a subsiduary of ESP) have a line of fantastic looking Les Paul replicas including a Jimmy Page model that has been given the "relic" treatment.  Fantastic looking.  The Edwards logo is a little awkward looking though.  

All the aforementioned guitars are Japanese and have the proper open book Les paul Headstock.

I have a Dean Evo that I really like that is very Les paul like without being a clone.

ESP's Eclipse line are a very nice pseudo Les paul as well.

My first guitar was a Columbus Les paul copy and it was... a piece of shite.  I gigged with it for a couple years none the less!

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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2006, 08:11:34 PM »
Epiphone Elitist (the Tak Matsumoto is a looker!) or Heritage. They are not more e xpensive than Gibbos, but cheaper. They go from 1600 € new, e.g. here:  http://www.haarguitars.nl/test/Index2.htm

by the way, Erik van der Haar will also custom make you a Les Paul for less than a Gibson.
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2006, 09:27:26 PM »
how about an orville? have to import one though.
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2006, 10:55:14 PM »
Just get a custom build? somebody like feline or legra could do you one for around the price of a gibbo, i'd have thought...

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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2006, 10:59:40 PM »
I can highly recommend the MIJ Tokai Love Rock's. Excellent guitars that are really well made, and don't cost the earth.

http://www.tokairegistry.com

http://www.tokaiforum.com

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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2006, 12:45:31 AM »
Quote from: blue
if you're willing to pay the price of a gibson, and a late fifties style les paul is what you want, why not a gibson?  people moan about their quality control, and the ethics of the prs court case are a bit dodgy.  however, if a les paul is what you want you can find good ones.  my own standard is a stunner. overpriced? probably, but cheaper than a prs and nails the fifties vibe, which the prs won't.  and you can walk into a dealers with your cash and take a gibson home, you'll have to wait months on the other "boutique" makes.  
gotta admit though, if you save a few hundred quid and aren't a name snob, those tokai's can be great!


I'd just hate to play a guitar that I know the company didn't really care about making. If I'm paying that much for a guitar, I don't even want there to even be a remote chance of quality control issues, Fender nail it with high end guitars costing hundreds less. I think I'd actually go so far as to say that I'm a brand snob against Gibson. I'd only own a Gibson if it was at least 7 or so years old.

I'm not really looking for boutique, and I'm not actually looking for one right now. The thing is, when I get one I want a guitar that really has character, that has had a lot of attention to detail added to it (more 'care' than things like decoration though) and a life of it's own.

If Feline or Tokai could provide me with such a guitar, that is anatomically correct to an LP, and cost the same or less, I'd be over the moon.

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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2006, 12:16:35 PM »
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/edwards/index.html




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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2006, 12:30:19 PM »
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