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Rebel Yell - Not sure....
« on: March 14, 2019, 08:06:16 PM »
Hi Guys,

Almost going to pull the trigger on a Rebel Yell. The pickup is for a core line PRS Starla, VERY warm guitar, really needs more presence and I'd like something with a bit of upper mid push.

In the demos I've heard, it sounds very 'HURP' in the midrange, like it's the out of phase sound, there's a frequency push that isn't honky.

Maybe it'll be better for me at a lower gain sound in the warmer guitar, but I'm hesitant as it's 195 to get one pickup. I've used the JB in the past, that was great, but too hot for me. Hotter = more bass most of the time.

I've tried the Mule in this guitar, it was fine, but lost the top end attack, so - no.

I play rock, country, alternative, progressive, I DON'T want a hot pickup as the rig is plenty hot.

Please advise?
Thanks,
Gav

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Re: Rebel Yell - Not sure....
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2019, 12:59:48 AM »
The Rebel Yell is mediumhot and bridges the gap between vintage and contemporary BKP's. I think it's a good pickup to brighten up a warm sounding guitar. It's focus is in the uppermids. It does not have a ton of bass. The RY is quite sensitive for the right height.
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Re: Rebel Yell - Not sure....
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2019, 11:56:42 AM »
I had a Rebel Yell in a really dark Les Paul that I've just sold, and it sounded great, amazing growl and body, but I think for that guitar a bit brighter pickup would have worked even better.

I've just installed a VHII set in a basswood/maple/rosewood superstrat, and I'm still a bit shocked about the increase of bite in the highs compared to the old ceramic Dimarzios... So I think they should work great in a dark guitar too
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Re: Rebel Yell - Not sure....
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2019, 03:48:25 PM »
The Rebel Yell is stupid good in the right guitar.  In an ideal instrument, it cannot be understated how awesome it is.  It has a very even harmonic sheen, wide pick attack, excellent string separation, amazing clarity, and tight lows. 
I have the Rebel Yell bridge in a Mahogany, bolt on neck short scale guitar, with a rosewood board and mahogany neck.  TOM bridge.  The personality of this instrument is somewhere between a tele and a Les Paul, but it is much more low mid focused than my Les Paul standard.  The guitar was just a ball of mud disaster in several situations, and the Rebel Yell was not working in my Les Paul Standard, where it wasn't quite high enough output or phat enough for my needs in that guitar.  The Les Paul, in contrast to the LG, has an acoustic tone that is resonant and balanced, very similar to an acoustic guitar. 

When I put an A-Bomb in my Les Paul, I dropped the Rebel Yell bridge into my Godin LG on a lark, and I was absolutely stunned.  My wife walks downstairs as I am testing the pickup and she exclaims "Man, that's PHAT!' 
The Godin LG adds the low mid thickness and girth, while the Rebel Yell adds attack, articulation, clarity, and string separation.  It is such a perfect fit for that guitar that it is just insane. 

Make no mistake, the Rebel Yell bridge pickup sounds incredible in a Les Paul, and it worked perfectly with my Dual Rectifier.  (Which I sold)  But with my Mesa Boogie Electra Dyne, I just wanted more push to get the gain saturation I was going for.  Furthermore, I wanted a more similar low end response since the Electra Dyne is an incredibly bass heavy amplifier, so I was tweaking my setup to work specifically with a magical, but incredibly fussy amplifier. 

I actually like the A-Bomb LESS with a Dual Rectifier than I like the Rebel Yell.  BUT, the A-Bomb shines through the Electra Dyne and through my Revv Generator 120.  So, it all worked out.
But yeah, I have a Rebel Yell bridge and VHII neck in the Godin LG, and that guitar is really at its best with these pickups.

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Re: Rebel Yell - Not sure....
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2019, 04:38:34 PM »
The Rebel Yell is stupid good in the right guitar.  In an ideal instrument, it cannot be understated how awesome it is.  It has a very even harmonic sheen, wide pick attack, excellent string separation, amazing clarity, and tight lows. 
I have the Rebel Yell bridge in a Mahogany, bolt on neck short scale guitar, with a rosewood board and mahogany neck.  TOM bridge.  The personality of this instrument is somewhere between a tele and a Les Paul, but it is much more low mid focused than my Les Paul standard.  The guitar was just a ball of mud disaster in several situations, and the Rebel Yell was not working in my Les Paul Standard, where it wasn't quite high enough output or phat enough for my needs in that guitar.  The Les Paul, in contrast to the LG, has an acoustic tone that is resonant and balanced, very similar to an acoustic guitar. 

When I put an A-Bomb in my Les Paul, I dropped the Rebel Yell bridge into my Godin LG on a lark, and I was absolutely stunned.  My wife walks downstairs as I am testing the pickup and she exclaims "Man, that's PHAT!' 
The Godin LG adds the low mid thickness and girth, while the Rebel Yell adds attack, articulation, clarity, and string separation.  It is such a perfect fit for that guitar that it is just insane. 

Make no mistake, the Rebel Yell bridge pickup sounds incredible in a Les Paul, and it worked perfectly with my Dual Rectifier.  (Which I sold)  But with my Mesa Boogie Electra Dyne, I just wanted more push to get the gain saturation I was going for.  Furthermore, I wanted a more similar low end response since the Electra Dyne is an incredibly bass heavy amplifier, so I was tweaking my setup to work specifically with a magical, but incredibly fussy amplifier. 

I actually like the A-Bomb LESS with a Dual Rectifier than I like the Rebel Yell.  BUT, the A-Bomb shines through the Electra Dyne and through my Revv Generator 120.  So, it all worked out.
But yeah, I have a Rebel Yell bridge and VHII neck in the Godin LG, and that guitar is really at its best with these pickups.

There you go Gavquinn. ------- So you got the Rev Generator. Awesome amp. I just cannot test them here in the NL. You have to buy them straight from Thomann.
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Re: Rebel Yell - Not sure....
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2019, 04:07:46 AM »
There you go Gavquinn. ------- So you got the Rev Generator. Awesome amp. I just cannot test them here in the NL. You have to buy them straight from Thomann.

Ya, I have a Generator 120, I've had it for almost 2 years now.  It's a great amp that is very versatile.
I think the overall voicing is bright with a certain amount of weight in the mids.  You don't need to dime the mids to achieve good metal tones like on a Dual Rec.  Channel 3 and 4 have an incredible number of great distorted tones, and with high output BKP, you have most of the usable ones in the 9:00 to 1:00 range, especially with aggression settings where you can easily up the level of gain saturation to ludicrous amounts with the switch of a button. 

Channel 2 is fantastic for low gain tones and is a great option on the amp. 

Channel 1 is a clean tone that is great but it is highly dynamic / uncompressed, and can be a bit sensitive to touch.  It is very transparent and showcases pedals remarkably well.  I love it for my delay and verb pedals.   I'd say the clean channel is the least flexible channel and it really does a certain sort of cleans, geared toward CLEAN cleans and metal cleans.  It's a blank canvas for pedals.  You don't that the 3D breathy bloomy cleans.
Channel 2 can do edge of breakup tones and functions as an alternate clean as well, when necessary.

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Re: Rebel Yell - Not sure....
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2019, 11:54:17 AM »
Thanks Guys,

I think the mids will go on top of mids here, I don't think it's my bag.

Thanks for the replies,

Gav

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Re: Rebel Yell - Not sure....
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2019, 03:05:37 PM »
If it helps, I can send you an MP3 of some electric guitars recorded unplugged with a condenser mic.  You can hear how my Godin LG sounds.  The guitar is very low mid focused with a notch in the upper mids and some articulation in the high end.  So, the Rebel Yell, being the inverse, was the perfect fit.

Have you considered a Riff Raff or Black Dog?

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Re: Rebel Yell - Not sure....
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2019, 04:47:44 PM »
No, the Black Dog describes 'extra weight in the mids' which is what I'm trying to avoid. I heard the clip, it's not what I'm after. It reminds me of the PRS 59/09.

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Re: Rebel Yell - Not sure....
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2019, 03:03:15 AM »
How bout the Emerald?
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Re: Rebel Yell - Not sure....
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2019, 03:13:24 AM »
The Emerald is basically somewhere between the Riff Raff and the Rebel Yell.  You can think of it as a hotter Riff Riff or a more vintage Rebel Yell.
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Re: Rebel Yell - Not sure....
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2019, 03:41:41 AM »
You really need to email BKP directly and see what they say.

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Re: Rebel Yell - Not sure....
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2019, 04:18:28 AM »
You really need to email BKP directly and see what they say.

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