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markr76

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Hi there,

I replaced the stock Mojo pickup in the bridge position of my Eggle 96 with a Rebel yell a while back. I changed it as the stock was way too dark for my taste.  While the rebel yell is far better, its still a little on the dark side.  Although I really do like the pickup over all, I really would like a similar pickup with a bit more top end bite . The guitar in question has a p90 in the neck position which might also be up for a swap out to something a bit brighter. The guitar has a swamp ash body with myrtlewood top (only about 5mm thick) and a roasted maple neck and I play a whole manner of music mainly based in the rock world.

The one change I'm going to make as the pickup is direct mounted  Is to add a pickup ring so I can adjust the height easier, also I think I prefer it from a cosmetic view.  But I used to have an emerald in an old guitar and really liked that.  Also considering the VHii.  I tend to prefer a lower output pickup, as I like the dynamic range more.  I also prefer the clean sound of the and like letting the amp do the work when the gain is applied. I think this comes from mainly playing Strats and Les pauls with paf style pups.  But the Eggle 96 was bought to cover the rockier side of things.

Any suggestions would be a great help.

Mark

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Re: Rebel yell in bridge postion of Patric James Eggle 96 too dark.
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2019, 05:24:24 PM »
Serious? A Rebel Yell that is too dark? How dark is the natural tone of your Eggle?
Maybe you've tried already, but did you fiddle with the height to find the sweet spot?

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Re: Rebel yell in bridge postion of Patric James Eggle 96 too dark.
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2019, 06:45:44 PM »
Has your guitar 500k pots? Maybe you could try the BKP 550k pots
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Re: Rebel yell in bridge postion of Patric James Eggle 96 too dark.
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2019, 11:53:50 PM »
I don't think the problem is in the pickup.  Try changing a few things.  First thing to test is wiring the pickup direct to the output jack, no pots at all.  If that doesn't make it bright enough for you nothing will.  Then if that sound is good maybe consider 1 Meg pots and a bright capacitor.  If it is ice-pick hell go for 500K or 550K.  I'm guessing you might have a 300K pot in there
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Re: Rebel yell in bridge postion of Patric James Eggle 96 too dark.
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2019, 08:51:56 AM »
The pot in the guitar is a BKP 550. So that shouldn’t be the problem. I’m thinking it’s more likely the pup height. It’s direct mount at the minute. But I’ve a pickup ring inbound to install. I can fine tune it then.
Maybe I was just comparing the guitar in context to my les Paul. Which is a very dynamic guitar. With lower wing pickups.

Cheers for the comments though. Gives me something to think about.

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Re: Rebel yell in bridge postion of Patric James Eggle 96 too dark.
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2019, 01:54:51 AM »
I had a similar problem with my Fender Custom Tele. It's a very dark and resonant guitar and although the RY has a lot of upper mids, it didn't have the bite in the very highest frequencies that this guitar needed. Nailbombs were better but the best overall turned out to be a Riff Raff bridge with a Mule neck. Now that I've finally ended up with these (via the original Atomic / Black Canyon set, EMG 81/60 set, Rebel Yell, Nail Bombs and Mules) I can't see myself changing them.

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Re: Rebel yell in bridge postion of Patric James Eggle 96 too dark.
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2019, 08:28:10 AM »
I tried a Rebel Yell in a dark Les Paul and it was the same for me, the pickup sounded great but I missed a bit more top end.

Now I have a VHII set in a basswood/maple guitar, and its a bit too much top end for me. If I hadn't sold that LP, I would try the VHII with a couple of 550k pot on it
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