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Ventanaman

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The Peacemaker
« on: September 25, 2022, 01:11:53 AM »
As a fan of Black Stone Cherry, Chris Robertson, and BKP, I am very excited about this pickup. It may be a while before we start to see reviews and other samples pop up online, so I am going to go ahead and order it blind.

On paper, it seems Tim took ideas from the Mule and the Polymath and created a vintage hot pickup with some unique construction combinations and modern features. I absolutely love the Polymath, the True Grit, the Mule, and the Abraxas, so this thing may be right up my alley. I play pop, pop punk, classic and hard rock, and some occasional British new wave metal.

If you pick up a Peacemaker - chime in on this thread. I will let you know when I get mine installed and post some thoughts.

Rock on!

darrenw5094

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Re: The Peacemaker
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2022, 01:02:17 PM »
Yeah, looking forward for the reviews on this one. I'm a les paul dude atm, so this could be a rocker.
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Holy Diver - Charvel
Mule - Les Paul
Rebel Yell - Les Paul
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Emerald - Les Paul
Warpig - Caparison Horus

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Re: The Peacemaker
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2022, 05:26:09 AM »
I had a very nice email exchange with Tim Mills and here is what he had to say about the Peacemaker when I asked about output and the effect of the isotropic A5 magnet on the highs and compression:

"Peacemaker is more between Black Dog and Emerald in terms of output although the isotropic Alnico V magnet really fattens up the highs and adds some lovely harmonic complexity. Peacemaker is definitely a vintage hot humbucker but not as hot as Polymath and True Grit which I would term as medium output pickups.

Highs of the Peacemaker as a touch brighter than the Abraxas with less output and less compression. There's also more dynamic headroom on tap too which opens it up quite a bit. I would describe the high end as chewy/juicy which is the iso V at work as it doesn't drive as hard in the highs. This keeps the high very clear but fat and solid."

My order is in, and now I wait.  :cool:

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Re: The Peacemaker
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2022, 04:50:39 PM »
New video demo up from the fabulous John Huldt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGZ1Y26egac

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Re: The Peacemaker
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2022, 11:24:59 PM »
That video was not what I was expecting. Good vid though
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Re: The Peacemaker
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2022, 09:22:27 PM »
That is a cool vid for sure!

Ventanaman

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Re: The Peacemaker
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2022, 09:39:23 PM »
I finally had time to install my Peacemaker bridge (with a Mule neck) and will have a review after a few hours of putting it through the paces.

In the meantime, Darth Phineas has a review up on his site, check it out:

https://darthphineas.com/2022/11/bare-knuckle-peacemaker/

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Re: The Peacemaker
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2022, 07:46:33 AM »
Ok folks - I have finally had the time to put the Peacemaker bridge (with a Mule neck) through some paces, and here are my thoughts.

As a background, I play mostly 90's and 2000's pop, rock, punk, and hard rock with about 20 paid gigs per year - so not a pro. I have gravitated to lower output pickups over the years as I love the dynamic range and lower compression. My current faves with BKP are the Mule, Abraxas, True Grit, and the Polymath. I have also been a fan of Black Stone Cherry and their southern hard rock sound for well over a decade. When I heard that Chris Robertson was getting his own signature pickup, I was stoked. I installed the Peacemaker in a mahogany body/maple top Music Man Axis Super Sport (E standard) and tested with a Friedman Wildwood 20 amplifier and the BE channel with gain set to 5 and master on 4 - a great overdriven modded Marshall tone.

On paper, it looks like Tim and the team have taken lessons learned from their PAF research, and the separate development of the Polymath, and combine those principles to the Peacemaker. This results in extremely tight and articulate, vintage voiced, lower output humbucker that can handle very high gain.

The Good: The Peacemaker has excellent note separation and overtones - very musical and articulate. The dynamics are such that you can go from mean to clean with just pick attack on your picking hand and rolling back the volume can get you just about anywhere you need to go on a single amp channel. As expected with this output range, there is very little compression and palm muting is tight and percussive, even at lower gain settings.

The Less Good: My biggest issue with the Peacemaker is the low end. It is like there is a high pass filter at 120Hz with a steep roll-off. This can be compensated with power amp depth or post-distortion EQ settings. I shouldn't be surprised since much of Chris Robertson's music sits in the land of drop C. The bottom end felt better when I went into drop D, but still felt it needed to be compensated with EQ. Additionally, because this pickup has so little compression and is so highly articulate, it will be unforgiving for a lot of players.

Verdict: If you need a vintage-voiced pickup for detuned rock (Drive By Truckers), hard rock (Black Stone Cherry) or even metal, this is an excellent option. I A/B'd the Peacemaker with the Mule, and man, I do think the Mule can handle more gain than many folks will give it credit - the Mule is truly a PAF masterpiece and in this context prefer the Mule A4 magnet over the unoriented A5. If you can less about the vintage voice, I find the Polymath to be more balanced, particularly in the low end and ultimately is a more versatile example of the unoriented A5 magnet. I would love to know what Chris Robertson felt either the Mule or the Polymath were lacking when he and Tim were developing the Peacemaker.

All in all, you can't really go wrong with anything from BKP. Get out and make some music! Rock on.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2022, 07:50:13 AM by Ventanaman »

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Re: The Peacemaker
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2022, 01:08:41 AM »
Thanks for the info on the Peacemaker... Great review.  I have also been interested in this pickup for a potential build.  Trying to get an Ash Body strat to go for VH early album tone.  I've tried the VHII pickup, but I think the A5 magnet in kinda misses the mark.   I may try swapping the bar in there for an Alnico 2.   So I thought maybe the Peasmaker would fit the bill for this.    I may end up just going with a SD '78 which is kind of the go to for early EVH guitars.     But again... great review!!   And Keep Rockin!

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Re: The Peacemaker
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2023, 01:06:42 PM »
Ok folks - I have finally had the time to put the Peacemaker bridge (with a Mule neck) through some paces, and here are my thoughts.

As a background, I play mostly 90's and 2000's pop, rock, punk, and hard rock with about 20 paid gigs per year - so not a pro. I have gravitated to lower output pickups over the years as I love the dynamic range and lower compression. My current faves with BKP are the Mule, Abraxas, True Grit, and the Polymath. I have also been a fan of Black Stone Cherry and their southern hard rock sound for well over a decade. When I heard that Chris Robertson was getting his own signature pickup, I was stoked. I installed the Peacemaker in a mahogany body/maple top Music Man Axis Super Sport (E standard) and tested with a Friedman Wildwood 20 amplifier and the BE channel with gain set to 5 and master on 4 - a great overdriven modded Marshall tone.

On paper, it looks like Tim and the team have taken lessons learned from their PAF research, and the separate development of the Polymath, and combine those principles to the Peacemaker. This results in extremely tight and articulate, vintage voiced, lower output humbucker that can handle very high gain.

The Good: The Peacemaker has excellent note separation and overtones - very musical and articulate. The dynamics are such that you can go from mean to clean with just pick attack on your picking hand and rolling back the volume can get you just about anywhere you need to go on a single amp channel. As expected with this output range, there is very little compression and palm muting is tight and percussive, even at lower gain settings.

The Less Good: My biggest issue with the Peacemaker is the low end. It is like there is a high pass filter at 120Hz with a steep roll-off. This can be compensated with power amp depth or post-distortion EQ settings. I shouldn't be surprised since much of Chris Robertson's music sits in the land of drop C. The bottom end felt better when I went into drop D, but still felt it needed to be compensated with EQ. Additionally, because this pickup has so little compression and is so highly articulate, it will be unforgiving for a lot of players.

Verdict: If you need a vintage-voiced pickup for detuned rock (Drive By Truckers), hard rock (Black Stone Cherry) or even metal, this is an excellent option. I A/B'd the Peacemaker with the Mule, and man, I do think the Mule can handle more gain than many folks will give it credit - the Mule is truly a PAF masterpiece and in this context prefer the Mule A4 magnet over the unoriented A5. If you can less about the vintage voice, I find the Polymath to be more balanced, particularly in the low end and ultimately is a more versatile example of the unoriented A5 magnet. I would love to know what Chris Robertson felt either the Mule or the Polymath were lacking when he and Tim were developing the Peacemaker.

All in all, you can't really go wrong with anything from BKP. Get out and make some music! Rock on.

I am busy with a multi-scale single bridge pickup build and initially was thinking of installing a P90 but I am on the fence between P90 and humbucker and have the limitation of string spacing needing to be wide spaced. I have next to no experience with vintage hot and contemporary output pickups but am building this guitar as my rock machine. I love hard rock but never learned to play it properly. With you having experience in the humbuckers I am interested in which one will you suggest for a single bridge pickup guitar between the Mule, Peacemaker and Polymaths? Same genre as you are playing in terms of tone.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2023, 01:35:37 PM by adrianfkelly »