Author Topic: WichBKP: vintage & defined sound wth lot attack & dy (Read 7437 times)

Fend · « **on:** May 15, 2006, 12:36:39 PM »

Hello everybody

Since years, I'm looking for MY perfect sound.
I found my amp (Engl Savage 120), I found my cab (4*12 Custom Audio Amp. with Greenbacks HPs), I found my guitars (ESP and custom made).
My music is a kind of post-hardcore, a fusion of rock'n'roll, metal and hardcore...

I'm looking for good bridge pickup, unfortunately BKP's descriptions are not enough precise for me so I need your help.

I'm looking for a pickup with a pronounced vintage organic rock'n'roll tone, a huge attack, lot of dynamics, with an equalisation balanced but with a little more bass and mediums and the most defined as possible.
My amp is an high-gain, so output level does not matter.

I found the DiMarzio Virtual Hot Paf (DP214), it's an excellent pickup but I want something more incisive, less muddy low-mid, you know ? And it's not enough defined for me...

What pickup can you recommend to me ?

In advance, thank you very much for your answers.
And scuse me for my bad english !!
:D

Twinfan · « **Reply #1 on:** May 15, 2006, 02:07:05 PM »

It sounds to me like you need a VHII, but I'm no expert. Let's see what the other guys suggest!

(Oh, and you're English is much better than my French!)

steve · « **Reply #2 on:** May 15, 2006, 02:21:08 PM »

I would say Mule,but then i would they are in all my guitars now.

Fend · « **Reply #3 on:** May 15, 2006, 02:42:51 PM »

Thanks :D

And why those two pickups ?
Wich differences between them ?

Twinfan · « **Reply #4 on:** May 15, 2006, 04:09:35 PM »

VHII is a hot PAF tone, modelled after the Van Halen II album. If you're after classic rock, I think it's the one you want.

Ced777 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 15, 2006, 06:24:44 PM »

VH II has lot of treble (but have a lot more punch, dynamic, and is more cutting than the DP214F). If you prefer a bit more bass and mids, maybe:
1/ Abraxas? (maybe compress a bit much)
2/ Black Dog?
3/ Crawler?

I would vote for a Mule if you are ok for a PAF style output. Or maybe a Crawler if you want more punch and output (never tried one, though)

Tellboy · « **Reply #6 on:** May 15, 2006, 07:32:22 PM »

Quote from: steve

I would say Mule,but then i would they are in all my guitars now.

Steve you've posted several (excellent) clips using various BKPs - I'm curious why you've now put Mules in all your guitars ?

steve · « **Reply #7 on:** May 15, 2006, 08:30:33 PM »

Quote from: Tellboy

Quote from: steve
I would say Mule,but then i would they are in all my guitars now.

Steve you've posted several (excellent) clips using various BKPs - I'm curious why you've now put Mules in all your guitars ?

I just sent you a PM answering your question.Cheers.

Johnny Mac · « **Reply #8 on:** May 15, 2006, 10:21:46 PM »

The ne Rebel Yell sounds really really good! Why not have a listen to the sound clip by Steve Stevens in the players section.

Tim · « **Reply #9 on:** May 16, 2006, 07:48:20 AM »

For great dry bite check out the Riff Raff!

Fend · « **Reply #10 on:** May 16, 2006, 08:56:05 AM »

Thanks to everybody for helping me !

My choice must be between The Mule or Crawler...
Not VHII, I don't want equalisation wth more trebles and I'm not THE VanHalen's sound fan !
Abraxas has less dynamics.

Can somebody describe me the Crawler ?
Wich difference with the Mule ?
Wich difference with the Abraxas ?
And the Riff Raff ?
Argh ! To many possibilities !!!

The Rebel Yell seems to be a great pickup but not enough "rock'n'roll" for me, I think !

indysmith · « **Reply #11 on:** May 16, 2006, 11:51:00 AM »

Quote from: Fend

The Rebel Yell seems to be a great pickup but not enough "rock'n'roll" for me, I think !

After playing a Rebel Yell through a JCM800 at LGS i assure yu there is NO PICKUP MORE ROCK'N'ROLL. it is the rock'n'roll KING!

Fend · « **Reply #12 on:** May 16, 2006, 12:06:40 PM »

Quote from: indysmith

Quote from: Fend
The Rebel Yell seems to be a great pickup but not enough "rock'n'roll" for me, I think !

After playing a Rebel Yell through a JCM800 at LGS i assure yu there is NO PICKUP MORE ROCK'N'ROLL. it is the rock'n'roll KING!

It's not what I've eard on the sound clips, but I know a sound clip is not very representative. I need my own experience... Unfortunately, it's too expansive to buy all BKP !
Wich pickups have you tried befor The Rebel Yell ?

carlaz · « **Reply #13 on:** May 16, 2006, 12:19:09 PM »

Quote from: Fend

Can somebody describe me the Crawler? Wich difference with the Mule? Wich difference with the Abraxas ?

The Mule is a classic PAF-style pickup, an excellent choice for "vintage" humbucker tones. The Crawler and Abraxas are both like "hotter Mules", but differ in their bridge pickups. The Crawler is a little hotter than the Abraxas and has more mid-range "grunt", while the Abraxas is slightly less hot and a bit sweeter toned.

I have a set of Crawlers in my Gibson LP Standard. They are really intended for big, fat 70s-style hard blues-rock, so they are hot enough handle "metal" sounds but have enough vintage feel to work in classic rock.

Fend · « **Reply #14 on:** May 16, 2006, 12:29:57 PM »

Very nice description, thank you.
The Crawler seems to be the one !
I'd like the mid-range grunt !!

Scuse me but what means "hotter" for you ? More output level ? More bass ? Less defined (fat) ?
Witch of these 3 pickups is more defined and more dynamic ?