Author Topic: Tele Cap values (Read 5208 times)

markbrai · « **on:** May 17, 2006, 06:11:52 PM »

Hi,

Just received my Country Boy set (quick aside....i ordered this set yesterday morning and they arrived today!!! That is AWESOME service!! Big thumbs up to Tim for that one!!) and am a wee bit confused as to wiring.

Im building up a Tele from scratch and so am sorting out all the bits at the mo. All the wiring diagrams I have seen have a 0.05uF cap between the volume and tone pots, but the schematic Ive got with the pups has a 0.022uF cap.

What is the tonal difference between the two????

Also, I have not been able to find a 0.05uF cap ANYWHERE, i can find 0.047uF though...is that what is meant (just rounded up)???

Cheers!!

38thBeatle · « **Reply #1 on:** May 17, 2006, 07:11:49 PM »

Sorry, I cant help with the techy stuff but congratulations of getting a great set of pups. I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Are you fitting a four way switch ? I'd recommend it for sure. I did do a clip which is in the players section somewhere and it had all four positions.

markbrai · « **Reply #2 on:** May 18, 2006, 08:26:22 AM »

Yeah, I was thinking about that...not sure though. This will be my first time installing pickups and it seems it might be a little complicated (adding extra ground wires etc)....is it or am I just imagining it???

Does anyone have any wiring diagrams I could look at for it??

FELINEGUITARS · « **Reply #3 on:** May 18, 2006, 10:06:10 AM »

You can use either
I find that the 0.05 cap rolls off too much treble and also too quickly for my taste
The 0.022 makes the tone "growl" on a tele when you roll it off which I like.

Get one of each value (cos they are cheap) and try experimenting for yourself

markbrai · « **Reply #4 on:** May 19, 2006, 08:27:58 AM »

I have just realised that the 4-way switch wiring is not difficult at all....its just I had managed to find THE most complicated wiring diagram in the entire world!!

Just a couple of quick questions about wire and shielding.

1) Is it better to get cloth covered (like on the pickups already) than standard wire? Theres a £2ish price difference between the two which to be fair isnt much, just wondered if it was worth it.

2) Do I need to put copper foil in all the cavities?? I looked inside my Epi LP and it doesnt have it and I have no problem with hum or anything...is it worth putting into my Tele or just a waste of time/money?

Cheers!

R/2e · « **Reply #5 on:** May 19, 2006, 04:29:19 PM »

I don't know if there is any performance difference between the two but the cloth covered looks better to my eyes and is easier to use in that you don't have to cut the insulation (and usually a few strands of wire), just push back the insulation and solder.

Four way switching is easy, you just have to convert the neck pickup to three wires by cutting the link between the cover and earth on the bottom of the pickup and soldering a new wire to the cover side of the link.

Your Epi probably has shielding paint, most of them seem to, also it will have humbuckers so less noise. For the few pounds for a strip of shielding tape from Allparts or WD it is worth doing particularly if you are using the guitar for recording. For gigging only I wouldn't bother personally.

markbrai · « **Reply #6 on:** May 19, 2006, 04:37:28 PM »

Ah brilliant, cheers for those answers!

As you say, might aswell go for the cloth wire and shielding tape as it doesnt really add much mroe to what already is a fair amount for this project!!

For the shielding tape, do you literally just cover the pickup and control cavitys with it or is there any special way you are meant to do it??

HTH AMPS · « **Reply #7 on:** May 21, 2006, 09:42:13 PM »

I personally prefer the 0.047uF cap on Teles, it seems to bring out a nice honky midrange on around 6 that reminds me of that early Led Zep tone.

:twisted:

R/2e · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2006, 10:44:22 AM »

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For the shielding tape, do you literally just cover the pickup and control cavitys with it or is there any special way you are meant to do it??

Don't cover the pickups!! Just the cavities. I put the tape (with backing attached) over the pup cavity and run round the edge with my nail to mark the size on the tape, cut out slightly bigger (2-3mm), then stick in, making the extra go up the sides a little way. Cut the tape in a strip to the depth of the cavity and stick round the sides. If there are any gaps, cut a little bit of tape and smooth over. Finally put a small touch of solder between and over any joints (just in one place for each) to ensure they are all connected eletrically. Dead simple really once you get the hang of it, the tape is very flexible and can be smoothed into all corners etc, also solders very easy with a 25w iron. Once complete, run a wire soldered to the tape to the back of the Volume control. Voila! Everything is shielded. You can go further and shield the underside of the scratchplate if you wish. If you decide to do the scratchplate, run a couple of bits of tape from the sides of the cavity onto the face of the guitar to make connection with the scratchplate shielding.