Author Topic: Overdrive Pedal For JCM800 (Read 11709 times)

downrodeo · « **Reply #15 on:** August 09, 2006, 03:57:19 AM »

I can't promote the Keeley SD1 enough. Tim has one, and I picked one up recently...give it a noise suppressor and you will get loads of gain and endless sustain (hey, that rhymes. :lol: ). Try it! It's pretty inexpensive and very sweet sounding. The harmonics are just out of this world!

downrodeo · « **Reply #16 on:** August 09, 2006, 04:03:41 AM »

To answer your question from before :oops: ...I'd have to say that the tonelab will give you an approximation of the sound you'd get out of a hot 800 running with a treble boost into the input...but it's NOT going to give you what it would sound like exactly. That's to be expected, though. I guess, what I'd say is you can't go wrong with a decent overdrive pedal as has been extremely common among NUMEROUS greats from the 800's era. Once you get an overdrive, look into a treble boost. Gear is one of those things...it's not like you're going to be waiting 2 years before you could get BOTH units, so, figure out what you believe to be more useful to you NOW and buy whatever else strikes your fancy later on. Cheers, mate!

LiamH · « **Reply #17 on:** August 09, 2006, 10:17:14 AM »

If you look on the Keeley website he talks about using a ts808/9 with a vintage rat. I have had a rat for a while now and do not like it, it's a bit too fuzzy for me. The other day I bought a ts9 and I love it, it has a lovely clean overdrive. I have now started using the two and the results with my yamaha pacifica and laney LC15 are astounding. I crank the ts9 overdrive right up, knock the tone and volume to half, and then add a very small amount of distortion with the rat, along with almost full filter and full volume. The result with the two is a meaty sustainy tone. If I knock the rat out of the chain gives me a nice bluesy sound, or knocking the ts9 out gives me a nice compressed clean, slighty driven sound.

I know my guitar and amp setup are a million miles away from yours but I think Keeley is on to something.

LiamH · « **Reply #18 on:** August 09, 2006, 10:22:24 AM »

Here's Keeley's blurb about the rat:

How do you know if you are going to be a RAT pedal fan? If you like a real cutting type of tone, one that sounds like a British type stack of amps and speakers, then the Rat is for you. Delivers classic tones as heard by Jeff Beck, John Scofield, as well as many Heavy Metal groups! Wide Range! Well, the Rat takes some fine tweaking! The controls are sensitive, but once set, it can be tonal Nirvana! Some of our most excited customers are Keeley Rat owners. Also, some folks just don't get it. (Hey, no fault right?!?! Not every pedal is for every person!) I can say, though, that the RAT and TS9 make a power dual pedal setup. For something that has a super sound combined, try your Rat and TS9. Experiment with the order of the pedals. These pedals sound completely different when one is put before the other, and vice versa. Are the magic settings Apocryphal? Yeah maybe a bit! But whence set right... ahhhh you've found the golden needle in the hay stack, mate!

Chris1974 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 09, 2006, 12:51:03 PM »

It may still be worth considering a treble booster if you're after the authentic Tony iomme tone - he used an original Dallas Range master treble booster which was responsible for the riduclous overdrive and harmonics/feedback that he got , also check out Rory Gallagher's tone as well as he used one most of the time.

There's quite a few companies that make copies of the original, i've just ordered one from toneman in America.

Turbo Rico · « **Reply #20 on:** August 09, 2006, 10:54:09 PM »

I´d go with Ibanez TS-9. I use one with my SL-X head as a clean boost, that is Level on max and Drive on sero. I love that pedal!

_tom_ · « **Reply #21 on:** August 09, 2006, 11:34:03 PM »

I have to say, the Behringer TO800 is awesome as a booster, and is only £20. The bypass isnt 100% perfect, but its good enough for non-snobs.

carlaz · « **Reply #22 on:** August 10, 2006, 10:40:02 AM »

Quote from: willo

I have a JCM800 and an Analogman SD1/808 (you can change between modded BOSS SD1 and TS808 sounds), and that's more than enough gain for me! With a set of Crawlers I can get a pretty tight tone, but with the VHII's it's a bit bright - although I think this is a by-product of the pickups themselves. I'm selling both, so drop us a line if you're interested...

<Homer drooling>Mmmmm, Analogman overdrive pedal ....</Homer drooling>

When you say you're selling "both", you mean both the JCM800 and Analogman SD1/808, or both the Crawlers and the VHII's, or .....? :)

Tricalibur · « **Reply #23 on:** August 10, 2006, 11:33:31 PM »

I should prob go ahead an say that I change my mind ALOT. And though this thread is only a month or so old I have already changed my mind about wnating an 800 several times over :D . But I still do want to boost whatever amp I get with a treble booster. prob this one: http://www.pedalgeek.com/cgi-bin/new_shop.cgi?config=&uid=ROFwsQAA1155248266&command=link--bsmrmm since its an authentic recreation of the rangemaster Tony had modified for more gain. Im thinkin Il prob run it into either a vintage matamp or a NEW Matamp or Electric amp or an old Laney Supergroup if I can find one. If I ever do get an 800 though I'll prob drive it with a Robert Keeley Moddified TS-9 "Baked Mod".

JJretroTONEGOD · « **Reply #24 on:** August 13, 2006, 03:21:45 PM »

hi I recommend the keeley fuzz head, because it's true bypass and it's a little beefier than a keeley SD1 if you want it to be, AND it can also get less drive than an SD1. I own both the Keeley SD1 and Keeley Fuzz Head and I'd go as far as saying that the fuzz head is the best sounding od/dist pedal I've ever heard, it never gets muddy even on full blast.