Author Topic: TIM, Right or Wrong. (Read 18133 times)

JamesHealey · « **Reply #30 on:** June 07, 2006, 09:15:18 AM »

Bill Lawrence L500XL.
DiMarzio Steve Special, Evolutions, PAF Pro, Air Norton.
Seymour Duncan JB, Invader
EMG 81, 85.

I like all of the above pickups for different reasons and sometimes want to compare them to my BKP's but havent had chance although I compared a JB to a VHII and Peavey Wolfgang bridge pickup and i'll tell u now i know which sounded better.

but everything has it's uses and i especially love the Evo's and L500XL's can't be beaten for lead work.. ok maybe a Miracle Man.. :P

I was using my Miracle Man at a gig not so long ago and a friend of mine and came up to me and said "I've never heard a guitar cut through like that, could hear everything".. thats better than the usual, "dude couldnt hear your solos"

StefanPrice · « **Reply #31 on:** June 07, 2006, 10:21:46 AM »

I know Tim is the greatest Pickup guru.

sambo · « **Reply #32 on:** June 07, 2006, 08:28:26 PM »

^i give up

deg0ey · « **Reply #33 on:** June 07, 2006, 08:41:53 PM »

^ You must never give up, your drive to make people believe is what makes this country what it is...

Ok, so that was rubbish, but I agree with you that there can be more than one pickup manufacturer at the top end of the market, and this Suhr guy may be one of them - but most people (including me) have not tried these other manufacturers, and have only discovered BKP's to be the top of the tree as far as making pickups goes, above those manufacturers that they HAVE tried (SD, DiMarzio etc) which don't come close to the quality of BK's...

So my point is, as far as most people on this forum are concerned, Tim is God, deservedly or not...But this may only be due to those same people having limited experience of the pickup market, and having discovered BKP's as the best pickups in the world, but not yet found anything of the same level...maybe

But on the plus side, Tim has nice hair (and BKP's are amazing :D )

fps_dean · « **Reply #34 on:** June 07, 2006, 08:48:59 PM »

Quote from: Tim

Computerised handwinding :lol: :lol:
Sure no two properly handwound coils are ever 'exactly' the same but the ballpark tone is virtually identical what you do hear are slightly different nuances of the same overall tone.

I just thought of the old Gibson PAF pickups. They would do the same thing, wind until there were around 5000 turns +/- but when you had one pickup wound a little more, it added character.

fps_dean · « **Reply #35 on:** June 07, 2006, 08:53:01 PM »

Quote from: JamesHealey

Bill Lawrence L500XL.
DiMarzio Steve Special, Evolutions, PAF Pro, Air Norton.
Seymour Duncan JB, Invader
EMG 81, 85.

I like all of the above pickups for different reasons and sometimes want to compare them to my BKP's but havent had chance although I compared a JB to a VHII and Peavey Wolfgang bridge pickup and i'll tell u now i know which sounded better.

but everything has it's uses and i especially love the Evo's and L500XL's can't be beaten for lead work.. ok maybe a Miracle Man.. :P

I was using my Miracle Man at a gig not so long ago and a friend of mine and came up to me and said "I've never heard a guitar cut through like that, could hear everything".. thats better than the usual, "dude couldnt hear your solos"

I love the Evolutions for lead work. Not a L-500 fan at all, but I've always liked my Evolutions a lot and they have always been great for leads etc. I'm liking them more since I got the SL-X modded. They have great mids through my Major and now the same style mid sounds through the modded SL-X despite having a bit more gain.

I got my Rebel Yells today so we will see how they fare.

I don't particularly care for Duncans much. They all seem to have piss poor clarity and often seem to be way too muddy ;(

jt · « **Reply #36 on:** June 07, 2006, 09:49:20 PM »

:D So Suhr use`s computers to wind his P/U`s. His hardly going to admit that winding by hand is better is he, or he`d have to make his P/U`s by hand & he doesn`t want to.

As for BK`s i`ve used Dimarzio, Duncans, Rio Grande, Fralins etc i now use Bk to me & my ears there`s no contest Bk`s are far far far superior in sound & are not more expensive than Duncans !!

:D 8)

sambo · « **Reply #37 on:** June 07, 2006, 11:56:05 PM »

Quote from: deg0ey

^ You must never give up, your drive to make people believe is what makes this country what it is...

Ok, so that was rubbish, but I agree with you that there can be more than one pickup manufacturer at the top end of the market, and this Suhr guy may be one of them - but most people (including me) have not tried these other manufacturers, and have only discovered BKP's to be the top of the tree as far as making pickups goes, above those manufacturers that they HAVE tried (SD, DiMarzio etc) which don't come close to the quality of BK's...

So my point is, as far as most people on this forum are concerned, Tim is God, deservedly or not...But this may only be due to those same people having limited experience of the pickup market, and having discovered BKP's as the best pickups in the world, but not yet found anything of the same level...maybe

But on the plus side, Tim has nice hair (and BKP's are amazing :D )

haha yeah thats what i was getting at!!! i was saying, people SHOULDNT be saying that BK's slay EVERYTHING else out there with NO CONTEST WHAT SO EVER... when theyve only tried a very limited number of other pups... Tom's comment on the previous page is a prime example of this.. (sorry tom just cant be arsed to find other examples)... and im one of the inexpereienced people... thats why i dont go around saying BKPs are better than everything.. even though i do think my pickup is very, VERY nice... and im sure that the rest of the BK line is too...

anyway, thanks deg0ey... glad someone else can at least SEE my train of thought...

_tom_ · « **Reply #38 on:** June 08, 2006, 12:28:17 AM »

Well thats true I havent played many SD's.. but the ones I have were no match for Bareknuckles, I mean the SD in my strat makes it sound thicker and muddier than my LP now I've got that installed.. it shouldnt be like that!

deg0ey · « **Reply #39 on:** June 08, 2006, 09:18:11 AM »

Quote from: sambo

haha yeah thats what i was getting at!!! i was saying, people SHOULDNT be saying that BK's slay EVERYTHING else out there with NO CONTEST WHAT SO EVER... when theyve only tried a very limited number of other pups... Tom's comment on the previous page is a prime example of this.. (sorry tom just cant be arsed to find other examples)... and im one of the inexpereienced people... thats why i dont go around saying BKPs are better than everything.. even though i do think my pickup is very, VERY nice... and im sure that the rest of the BK line is too...

I just don't think you should stress yourself about what other people are saying...I think based on the quality of Tim's pickups they're better than anything else i've ever used and that they could well be the best in teh world - I can't see how you could make an improvement :P

Dave Simpson · « **Reply #40 on:** June 08, 2006, 09:21:44 AM »

If Tim started giving them away for free, that would be an improvement! :P Other than that, nothing else I can think of.

sambo · « **Reply #41 on:** June 08, 2006, 05:16:44 PM »

" I can't see how you could make an improvement :P"

but thats the same with a lot of things...

for example, before getting my BKP... i thought my sound was great.... after the BKP... it sounds way better... but before... i couldnt have picked out something that could do with improving... i think you can only really do that when you have a lot of experience in a certain field.... and know where somethings lacking.. which i couldnt, and still cannot, do...

so what im getting at there is... there could a be little company in Peru making pickups ten times better than BKs that no-one knows about... and you may try them and have exactly the same opinion about BKs as you do about SDs.... (im using 'you' as a general term).... see?

unlikely, but you never know...

dave_mc · « **Reply #42 on:** June 08, 2006, 08:14:57 PM »

Quote from: sambo

" I can't see how you could make an improvement :P"

but thats the same with a lot of things...

for example, before getting my BKP... i thought my sound was great.... after the BKP... it sounds way better... but before... i couldnt have picked out something that could do with improving... i think you can only really do that when you have a lot of experience in a certain field.... and know where somethings lacking.. which i couldnt, and still cannot, do...

so what im getting at there is... there could a be little company in Peru making pickups ten times better than BKs that no-one knows about... and you may try them and have exactly the same opinion about BKs as you do about SDs.... (im using 'you' as a general term).... see?

unlikely, but you never know...

agreed. unfortunately, I did not realise this before purchasing my damn marshall avt combo.

:(

you have wisdom beyond your years, sambo. Now, have you bought that damn engl yet?

:lol:

:drink:

sambo · « **Reply #43 on:** June 08, 2006, 08:38:58 PM »

haha well ive got going on for £400 in my bank... plus selling my two current amps... = £200-300 more... = £600-700.... so.... could happen...

dave_mc · « **Reply #44 on:** June 08, 2006, 10:17:20 PM »

^ ah, cool.

pm sent- don't want to off-rail this convo, lol.

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