Author Topic: Best (affordable) guitar w/P90's? (Read 22663 times)

sambo · « **Reply #15 on:** July 01, 2006, 02:01:22 PM »

i dont see the point in getting an LP junior over the MM... not for the extra money... unless your craving for two pickups of course...

Sifu Ben · « **Reply #16 on:** July 01, 2006, 02:34:31 PM »

A) It looks better
B) I't's got a second pickup
C) It's got the "proper" Gibson headstock (the MM one really turns me off)
D) Did I mention it looks better?
I quite fancy one of the singlecut SE soapbars (there's still a few around) and they're supposed to be quite good. The Gordon Smiths are super cheap and well thought of.

sambo · « **Reply #17 on:** July 01, 2006, 03:14:25 PM »

1.) looks are personal preference.
2.) second pickup isnt NECESSARY... again its preference... and not worth £100 extra in my opinion..
3.) theres no way in hell id pay more good money for a different shaped headstock :?
4.) again.. i actually prefer the look of the MM...

CaffeineJunkie · « **Reply #18 on:** July 01, 2006, 03:46:20 PM »

Quote from: Sifu Ben

A) It looks better
B) I't's got a second pickup
C) It's got the "proper" Gibson headstock (the MM one really turns me off)
D) Did I mention it looks better?
I quite fancy one of the singlecut SE soapbars (there's still a few around) and they're supposed to be quite good. The Gordon Smiths are super cheap and well thought of.

+1, sorry sambo, but i don't think anybody should be derived of the second pickup in a guitar

_tom_ · « **Reply #19 on:** July 01, 2006, 04:30:13 PM »

One pickup is more rawk though.

sambo · « **Reply #20 on:** July 01, 2006, 05:31:52 PM »

Quote from: CaffeineJunkie

+1, sorry sambo, but i don't think anybody should be derived of the second pickup in a guitar

haha! im sorry but that is utter bullshiteee... i really dont think a second pickup is that vital... not in the slightest... i have more than enough options using my amp/tone control/coil tap.... all in one pickup... i havent missed a second pup in the slightest... in fact i prefer just one cause its simple... and like tom said- its more rawk...

indysmith · « **Reply #21 on:** July 01, 2006, 06:02:42 PM »

Quote from: sambo

Quote from: CaffeineJunkie

+1, sorry sambo, but i don't think anybody should be derived of the second pickup in a guitar

haha! im sorry but that is utter bullshiteee... i really dont think a second pickup is that vital... not in the slightest... i have more than enough options using my amp/tone control/coil tap.... all in one pickup... i havent missed a second pup in the slightest... in fact i prefer just one cause its simple... and like tom said- its more rawk...

any less than 3 pickups and you're just softcore, lol

CaffeineJunkie · « **Reply #22 on:** July 01, 2006, 07:06:23 PM »

Quote from: sambo

Quote from: CaffeineJunkie

+1, sorry sambo, but i don't think anybody should be derived of the second pickup in a guitar

haha! im sorry but that is utter bullshiteee... i really dont think a second pickup is that vital... not in the slightest... i have more than enough options using my amp/tone control/coil tap.... all in one pickup... i havent missed a second pup in the slightest... in fact i prefer just one cause its simple... and like tom said- its more rawk...

having the coil tap is essentially having two pickups anyway

sambo · « **Reply #23 on:** July 01, 2006, 08:01:59 PM »

^exactly!.... so you dont need 2 pickups at all...

?!?!?!?!?!

CaffeineJunkie · « **Reply #24 on:** July 01, 2006, 08:20:16 PM »

so what about when you want to go from a Led Zep style riff to a GnR style solo??? how you gonna do that with your coil tap?

deg0ey · « **Reply #25 on:** July 01, 2006, 08:43:21 PM »

You use a different guitar...Noone's saying it can cover everything, just that it's not useless because it only has one pickup

To be honest, I'm thinking of getting a guitar with P90s but the MM is just ugly to my eyes - I wouldn't be adverse to it only having one pickup though

Sifu Ben · « **Reply #26 on:** July 01, 2006, 08:50:03 PM »

How do you coil tap a P90 :?
Anyway, if you wanted to retrofit a melody maker with a neck pickup and a scratchplate, you're looking at £80 for the pickup and £25 for a scratchplate that size and shape, so you've spent £105 before you've even paid a luthier to rout the new cavity and fit it for you, as well as fitting the switch and 2 new pots and knobs (another £20), so you're looking at the best part of £200! How again is it not worth that?
I really hate this weird "one pickup is more rock" reverse snobbery. What are you really saying? "I'm going to intentionally limit myself as a musician because it's more rock" ?????
Bottom line is that you cannot get the same sounds or qualities from a bridge pickup as you can from a neck pickup, and some fantastic rock sounds have been created using the neck pickup, just ask Clapton, Hendrix, Page, Blackmore, Slash etc.

Sifu Ben · « **Reply #27 on:** July 01, 2006, 08:53:18 PM »

degOey, it's more than likely that you're going to want to play crunchy riffs and fluid leads in the same song.
We weren't the ones saying 1 pickup was useless, the 1 pickup brigade is saying that the neck pickup is pointless :roll:
Even Van Halen has started using the neck :o :shock:

deg0ey · « **Reply #28 on:** July 01, 2006, 08:57:03 PM »

Well, you need to look at what a coil tap is to understand how one works on a P90...a coil tap is (to my knowledge) a wire coming from a pickup so that it doesn't use all the coils of wire - thus limiting its output and changing the sound

The reason people get confused is that the term is used interchangeably with coil split (using only one half of a humbucker) by many people, which is technically incorrect

(although i could be wrong on these definitions lol)

EDIT: I think both camps are right in this argument - Neck pickups hold their uses for certain things, and a guitar with two pickups is more versatile because of this...but if you know what sound you're after, and a single p/up gives you that sound then why overcomplicate with two pickups? especially if you have other guitars you can use when you need a neck pickup :)

And i think tom's "rawk" comment was a touch sarcastic :drink:

_tom_ · « **Reply #29 on:** July 01, 2006, 09:25:23 PM »

Quote from: deg0ey

And i think tom's "rawk" comment was a touch sarcastic :drink:

I guess it was.. but its also partially true! Less fuss more rock :P