Another 'what pickup for what music' thread. New here!

[Pierre]

Hey guys! I'm coming from the Seymour Duncan forums (hey TO and Xssive...) and I'm still looking for 'the' pickup to put in the bridge of my Charvel model 4. It's basswood bolt on neck super strat with a Floyd rose bridge and a rosewood fingerboard.
Anyhoo the sound... well what I'm looking for is something very similar to Zakk Wylde's high gain sound. I don't want HIS tone but the same kind of distortion or something very similar and thick like this. Right now my pickup has an output of about 8.6K (Jackson J50BC) and it's a really good one but I'm always looking for some fun. I haven't been playing guitar for too long (saying how long would be shameful for me, you'll forgive me  PDT_022 ) but sound matters a lot to me. Right now I'm running the Charvel through a POD 2.0 and a Peavey Envoy.
The pickups I have in mind so far are the Warpig, Nailbomb and Miracle Man. There are other by other brands which I shall shut up now, but considering Bareknuckle's amazing reputation I'm sure I won't regret it. Suggest away and thanks for listening (or reading)!

[willo]

guessing the Warpig here? its meant to model Zakk's tone isnt it? and have you checked out the Player's section yet? there's lots of soundclips in there. oh and welcome to the forum! :)

[Steve-Mr Pig 2U]

Hi Perre,
       have you checked the players room, There are some great clips in there of some of the Pickups we make.
I think youve got the right idea with the pickups you have in mind!
Check out the clips and let us know what you think.
Cheers

[Ratrod]

Well, the Miracle Man seems the obvious choise here. The Warpig might be to bassy for what you want. I have a Warpig in a basswood guitar. Very warm and bassy, wich very cool if that's what you like. The Nailbomb is not what I would call thick, I think it's very open. My advice would be the Miracle Man. It does more than just Zakk. :twisted:

[Pierre]

Thanks a bunch!
I did check out the clips but I don't really trust them. Not saying they're innacurate, but there's so much processing in any clips, I can never be sure of how it really would sound in my room when I play. I had a listen to a few of them but I couldn't really find what I am looking for. TO's clip of the Miracle Man though is very close to what I want, except I'd use more gain (he's the one who indirectly directed me here after I heard his clip)
I'm also affraid to lose versatility if I get too high an output. The Warpig for instance is 22k, I don't really know what that means but compared to my Jackson humbucker now (which by the way is REALLY good, just not what I need) there's a huge difference. Would a higher output humbucker enable me to remain clear at higher gain settings, or just plainly to get more distorted?
It does seem like the Miracle Man is a winner. The price factor is the main thing I have to consider against other makes' pickups (I don't know if we're allowed to discuss that in here, sorry if I'm breaching any rules, I haven't yet read the stickies...  :uhu: ) Thanks for the quick help so far!

[HJM]

Miracle Man for a Zakk type flavour, or the Nailbomb for more scope. The extra volume from these and the high gain Warpig helps you out, you don't have to pick as hard to get distortion!! The extra output drives the amp more, giving more distortion and compression. But clean tones are sacrificed a bit, the Nailbomb is the best of the three for versatility.  Works very well in Basswood bodies.

The BKP clips I recorded with Tim have a touch of reverb on the rhythm guitars, and a bit of delay. No EQ, just a JCM800 and dirt box.

BKP high output pickups are not as closed and dark as mass produced pickups. The top end is still nice and open, no honky mids or piercing frequencies!

[Steve-Mr Pig 2U]

Hi Pierre,
         I don’t think that the Warpig would be right for you, I would go with either the Miracle man or the Nailbomb. The Nailbomb will have a better clean tone than the miracle man because it uses an alnico V magnet, where the miracle man uses a ceramic. The Miracle man will also have a tighter bottom end than a Nailbomb. The Nailbomb is by far the more versatile of the two.
        DC readings are only relative when comparing pickups wound with the same gauge of wire, so can be quite misleading and should only be used as a very rough guide as to what you want.

The price factor is the main thing I have to consider against other makes' pickups

Remember, Our pickups Will sound better that any mass produced pickups, because they are scatterwound and use the best quality components money can buy!

[Peterku]

The price factor is the main thing I have to consider against other makes' pickups

Note that you'll get a lot more of the "pickup" itself and less of the "shipping costs, dealer margin, taxes etc." for the same price, if you order a pickup that's made here in Europe. Based on how great my Mules sound, no matter which model you choose, you'll get a piece of gear that'll be your friend on stage for a lifetime. 8)

[jt]

:guitar4: Hi man. you keep mentioning that you want your P/U`s to be versitile but for what  :?:
do you go from playing Jazz to playing Thrash  :?:
i might be wrong here [Tim HJM Steve] will put me right the less Gain the P/U has the more sustain you get from your guitar. the strings are not being pulled to a stand still as fast as if you have a high gain P/U .the benefit of a high gain is that you get a more imposing smack in the mouth the moment  you hit the strings  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
with a low gain you use your amps gain to drive the amp a lot more. with a high gain you can back the gain off as some of the drive is coming off of the P/U. the reason you may be liking your P/U in the Charvel so much is that it is allowing you to get longer sustain you have to decide what one out of the 2 you want  :D
all of these BK P/u`s sound great in the flesh. any one who has seen the guys at the guitar exhibitions will tell you.  :D  8)

[Pierre]

Haha good question, I got carried away with rambling and I forgot to add a lot of info.
I have an HSS pickup configuration. The only things I play with the bridge pickup would be sometimes clean when I have to switch in one song, Metal and Punk. Ska, Blues, Jazz, clean stuff, it all goes in the middle and neck pickup, depending on what mood I'm in. So in a way, I want something that would clean up, but I don't want Fender type clean with it. Just... clean... if that makes sense :P
I think it shall be the miracle man. Thanks A LOT for the tips! I'm looking forward to help on this forum as well (though with my guitar n00bness, don't expect much   :lol:  )

[maliciousteve]

Warpig  8)

[Steve-Mr Pig 2U]

I would go with the Miracle man.

[Pierre]

Thanks everyone! That's one more in my list, so now I have 3 to chose from :p

[Peterku]

And what about a Miracle Man w/ Alnico V? It would clean up better than the ceramic version.

[Steve-Mr Pig 2U]

Thats a good suggestion Peterku, It would certainly make it more versitle.