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Canadian Steve

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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2006, 03:54:54 PM »
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You can't cryo humbuckers, only single coils - I've asked!


thas a bit odd


I know.  I think he said it does something to the (plastic) bobbins/spacers in humbuckers.
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2006, 05:03:09 PM »
theoretically cryo treating the wire of a pickup might change the tone by lowering the electrical resistance in the wire  - so there might be something in it, however, this claim of 18% improvement - is that a science thing or and advertising thing?
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2006, 06:23:34 PM »
You can prove anything with statistics.

(14% of people know that)

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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2006, 06:24:20 PM »
67% of all statistics aren't true
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2006, 06:25:19 PM »
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You can prove anything with statistics.

(14% of people know that)


But around 80% of people admit to making up statistics when they can't remember the actual figure :drink: :lol:

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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2006, 07:32:02 PM »
Well, if it changes the sound of my BKPs then I don't want it. If Tim would wind pickups knowing the change caused by the cryo treatment and anticipating it, that might be different.
I do like Blue Steels on my EVH, but not on the Les Paul.

I have two cryo valves, a KT77 and a 6L6, and I like the 6L6 but not the KT77.

So I think it's like always: things need to make sense together. You can't have DM Blue Steels, and George L cables and cryo pickups and cryo valves, that just becomes too much treble and too fast, too.

If you have a muddy guitar though, then maybe cryo'ed pickups are just the right thing to fix it...
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« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2006, 09:17:42 AM »
cryo? wtf? how gay!! they'll sell u anything, before u know it they'll say theres something to this scatterwinding malarky! :P

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« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2006, 05:06:35 PM »
Yeah and add the handwired cr@p too

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« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2006, 10:47:58 PM »
What I don't get is that Callahan seem to cryo the pickup after it is made - is this correct - surely for the science bit to work Lindy Fralin (is that a man or a woman?) would have to cryo treat the pickup wire before winding it??  Surely that is the only logical way to make a cryo treated pickup that claims to do the thing it does, not to drop the pickup into nitrogen bobbin and all?

What happens with cryotreated valves - surely the nitrogen breaks the glass - so how do you treat NOS valves?

Confused  :D
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2006, 10:35:07 PM »
I'm going to have myself cryogenically treated. If all the molecules in my arms are lined up in the same direction, I'll be able to play faster.
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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2006, 11:51:39 PM »
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What happens with cryotreated valves - surely the nitrogen breaks the glass - so how do you treat NOS valves?

Confused  :D


They get brought down to temperature very slowly (over about 12 hours), and the gradual change doesn't seem to break the glass :drink:
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