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« on: August 09, 2006, 03:33:02 PM »
I've got a guitar body I've made which is pretty close to completion and I'm pretty sure I want to use some sort of thinned acrylic as has been used on my Highway 1 Strat. The strat looks really loverly and the grain shows through the red. How easy would it be do replicate that in blue I wonder?

I have a compressor and (somewhere, havent used it in ages) a pro car spraying kit that I will use. Is any acrylic suitable? I know they are based on resins and pigments, and I've used the various artists incarnations that use water for thinning..

Obviously we're talking about a thin coat, not a thick poly-like finish, as I think that sucks the tone and doesnt suit all guitars.

If any experienced refinishers (hobby or pro) have any links to products that would help me greatly!  :wink:  The wood is swamp ash btw, so the grain looks loverly!  8)
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2006, 06:36:59 PM »
Hi.  The Highway One guitars are finished in satin nitrocellulose laquer.  However, you can use pretty much anything to finish a guitar, depending on what gear you have and what you are aiming to end up with.  There are water-based finishes that work quite well available from places like stewmac.com and  lmii.com, while nitro is available here and there (reranch.com in the States, but they can't ship it overseas).  The good thing about water-based stuff is that it can be shipped anywhere and it's less toxic to use.  It also dries faster than nearly anything else.  The bad news is that the coats don't melt into each other as you spray, like solvent-based finishes do, so if you make a mistake you have to sand it out right then and not rely on being able to complete your coats and then sanding it.  So you risk sand-throughs and other cr@p more often.

Duplicolor auto touch-up paints are another decent alternative for finishing guitars.  Lots of colours, too.

Hmm.  Back to your question.  :)  Err, in order to get a thin coat, like on the Highway One Strats, I wouldn't thin the paint excessively. You can do it.  Some people will do it when spraying non-water-based polyurethane and nitro.  But I would just not put many coats on and spray lightly to start with.  If you have spray gear then this is pretty easy to accomplish, since you have more control than you do with spray cans.  If you're talking about a transluscent finish, then these can be done by tinting clear with your colour of choice.  Spraying a finish like this can be a pain though, so you'd wanna practice first, because transluscent finishes (and metallic ones) can often end up patchy where you might have accidentally put more colour down in one area than in another.

Depending on the wood--whether it's light or dark--and the colour you want--whether it's light or dark--you can get good results by rubbing a stain into the wood and then spraying clear over it.  You're less likely to get a patchy finish that way, though it does have challenges of its own.

If any specific question occur to you, just ask.
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2006, 06:44:09 PM »
Cheers Searcher.

I honestly thought only the new Hiway strats were nitro finish?  :?  Will have to check mine out again as I read numerous things on the fender site that made me beleive that. Still if it is Nitro that aint a biggie, does the same as the acrylic in that it lets the wood resonate.  :lol:

If I can I want to avoid nitro as I havent the safety knowledge to do it properly, and there are obviously health risks to others to consider.

Cheers for the input, will check out the webpages.  :D
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2006, 06:47:45 PM »
No worries.  :)

I think you might be right about the older H-1 guitars.  I was talking about the newer ones, but I can't remember what the old ones were done with.

By the way, no matter what you spray with, get yourself a decent respirator.  They're only about $40 here and are important for your health.  Absolutely all paints you spray with are harmful in some way. Some are just worse than others.  The good thing about water-based paint is that it won't stink the house up if you have to leave the guitar inside to dry.  Some of those other paints are pretty nasty.
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2006, 06:57:37 PM »
I know what you're saying about the respirator, I have mild asthma and so at the time I bought the best I could afford... now I think on I think it did get damaged, so will pop down and buy a new one sometime soon.

Have been checking out the Colortone's and acrylic laquers on stewmac, seem quite good. I will google for UK distributers (as I dont have a credit card - hate the things, lol). Maybe they do a satin, the website only lists it as high gloss  :?  Unless I wire wool it down a little...

Obviously I'm doing a test run on some spare wood first when I get the paints. I'd hate to spray on and find I dont like it, lol!  :lol:
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