Author Topic: Just like to clear something up here + Amp advice. (Read 25987 times)

CaffeineJunkie · « **Reply #15 on:** August 20, 2006, 07:51:14 PM »

the TF is the Tube Fusion series, which i believe is the Laney version of the AVT, ie valve preamp and solid state power amp

correct me if i'm wrong....

dave_mc · « **Reply #16 on:** August 20, 2006, 07:56:43 PM »

how much money do you have for the amp, and how loud can you crank said amp?

also, that BKP set is a lot. I'm not trying to lose BKP sales, but if you're buying a sub-standard amp (as the AVT is, IMO, though you could maybe get something a lot better for a similar price, depending on which avt you're looking at) so you can afford the pickups, you might want to put all your money into the amp, and get the BKP's at a later date- they'll sound so much better with a good amp, into the bargain.

Just my two cents.

:drink:

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #17 on:** August 20, 2006, 08:06:41 PM »

I can save money for a better amp, though i won't be getting it straight away. And i was planning on getting the pups on a later date anyway.
But i wasn't planning on spending much on the amp, my limit at the moment is £450 looking at these tube amps.

My choices at the moment are:

Ashdown FA40 Fallen Angel (40 watt combo) - £449
Marshall DSL 401 (40 watt combo)- £429

There is also the Peavey Valve King 112 (50 watt combo) - £279

But i remeber last time i suggested the Peavey and people said it sucked.

OD-Black_Fire · « **Reply #18 on:** August 20, 2006, 08:16:03 PM »

Check out the B-52 AT-212 100 watt all tube combo. I got it for just under $800USD, might be a bit higher than what you are looking for, but you can get so many good sounds from this.

You can chose from 3 rectifier settings and change them by turning a knob. Class A, AB, and solid state!

Then there is the low resonance control. Turn it down and it sounds more crunchy and less "metal," more like a Marshall crunch. When you turn it up all the way it makes it sound huge.

I believe there is a cheaper SA-212 60 watt combo but I've always thought they sound more loose and softer. I can make my AT-212 sound like the SA but I can't get the SA to sound like the AT-212. 100 watts is hardly louder than 60 watts, btw.

B-52's balls dwarfs those Ashdown's, completely.

dave_mc · « **Reply #19 on:** August 20, 2006, 08:18:43 PM »

^ ^ just to add to your list, the randall rg50tc is also worth a look, it's a similar price.

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #20 on:** August 20, 2006, 08:20:25 PM »

I looked at Randalls before, though the only way i can get them is from the internet, and i don't know if that will be safe, not the money i mean the amp being bumped around during delivery.

CaffeineJunkie · « **Reply #21 on:** August 20, 2006, 08:21:32 PM »

amps are pretty sturdy, they can take a few bumps

i've ordered all my guitars off the stinkernet, all three turned up in perfect condition

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #22 on:** August 20, 2006, 08:22:52 PM »

By the way who are B-52? I have never heard of them!

dave_mc · « **Reply #23 on:** August 20, 2006, 08:23:46 PM »

it's probably safe enough to order it off the net, but it's not really wise to order one if you can't try it...

CaffeineJunkie · « **Reply #24 on:** August 20, 2006, 08:23:50 PM »

arent they the one's that sang love shack???

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #25 on:** August 20, 2006, 08:28:28 PM »

OD-Black_Fire · « **Reply #26 on:** August 20, 2006, 08:31:54 PM »

Quote from: Crazy_Joe

By the way who are B-52? I have never heard of them!

They used to make PA systems, and their mid-range PA systems got a lot of sales because they apparently had great quality for a affordable price. They then made a solid state guitar amp and it was released at a pretty bad time, when tube amps were "coming back." They released their first all tube head, the AT-100 and they keep progressing nicely. Their cabs are really nice too, if you read the reviews on harmony central you'll see that people are using them with their $3000 Rectifiers and shite.

They are mainly American, you can get them online or in some shops. I don't know if they are sold in UK shops yet, but its worth looking for them.

EDIT: And yes, there is a band called The B-52's or something. Lol.

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #27 on:** August 20, 2006, 08:36:37 PM »

Yeah i don't think i'm going to be finding many of those amps here in the UK.

HTH AMPS · « **Reply #28 on:** August 20, 2006, 08:42:38 PM »

Quote from: Crazy_Joe

I play a shitee load of Metallica. Also Ozzy, Mercyful Fate, Slayer, Annihilator etc. stuff, i'm a very 80's player

The Miracle Man will do all of that stuff. I've not tried the Nailbomb but it's apparently brighter with less bass compared to the Miracle Man.

For comparison sake, most of the players in the bands you mentioned use EMG81s - the MM is supposed to be the closest in the BKP range to that sound (except passive).

Quote from: Crazy_Joe

I'm a bit confused as to what people are saying here, are you saying i need a tube amp, because it sounds as if all solid state amps are getting bashed here because they don't sound good cranked up, or do i just need a good solid state which sounds good loud, if there is such a thing :P

I actually like solid state amps for metal, they sound good at all volumes (imo). I've used both the AVT50 and the SpiderII, they are both worthy contenders for thrash tones.

If you can stretch your budget, try to find a used Randall head on ebay - they do the business, trust me.

I have a sound clip in the players section of my Miracle Man-loaded Les Paul through the Randall Titan amp.

:twisted:

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #29 on:** August 20, 2006, 09:05:26 PM »

To be honest i don't really need a head, though i was looking at one in my local store, the RH200G2 i think it was, it was 300 odd quid. But as i said it's a bit too powerful for me at the moment.

At the moment the Ashdown Fallen Angel is the top contender.

Has anyone seen this new pedal:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/MXR-Grind-and-Clear-ZW44-Wylde-Overdrive?sku=151029

I don't really see the difference between that and the normal Zakk overdrive, maybe it's just a newer version.