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« on: August 21, 2006, 10:33:49 PM »
Just seen this in the sales:

http://www.soundcontrol.co.uk/mod_1/pages/mod_1.12/pages/mod_1.12.1/pages/mod_1.12.1.1/pages/index.php?sku=1.1.6.5.3-44-555&ms=true

Havent bought one yet, but have been looking on another site, seems this usually goes for over a hundred quid. Might be suitable for mic'ing a few cabs if anyones got the wonga  :wink:
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2006, 10:43:09 PM »
most people aim for the Shure SM57

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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2006, 10:46:49 PM »
Well I know that, but on a budget it might be worth a try  :wink:

I use the Beta 57a for micing the combo, it gets a killer tone.  8)  I also have had great success in getting a nice classic rock tone out of an AKG D65s, which only cost me about 30 quid at the time (10 years back, I bought 3 and multi miked with them). Sadly they got discontinued  :(  If only the world had caught on, I wonder if there is a newer AKG that is like the next-generation...  :?
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2006, 10:53:43 PM »
http://www.jarlonline.co.uk/index.asp?function=DISPLAYPRODUCT&productid=40

SM57 - Same Price...But the other might be worth more when not in the sale, I dunno...
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2006, 11:17:13 PM »
get the Shure SM57, it's not much and it's all I've ever used for the last 5 years for all my miced up amp sounds live and in the studio. The Senhiezer (spelt wrong I know) MD421 dynamic mic is the other industry standard, worth checking cos it's a large diaphram dynamic mic, but it'll cost you more doe.
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2006, 11:20:52 PM »
Yeah I agree- SM57 is solid reliable and is easy to capture a great  sound with. If it is for live work you want something robust as some pr*t is bound to knock it flying.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2006, 12:47:20 AM »
The Sennheiser e609 is another good mic that won't break the bank.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2006, 05:03:29 PM »
I've heard some amazing recording with the e906 one they do, I have to say, so I've always fancied on of those.

This is the new model of the AKG I used:
http://www.dv247.com/invt/4279/

Solid little beasty, ok for vocals but found it better on amps. Technically it is a vocal mic but I've never had any problems.  :D

OK, so does anyone use condensors on their amps? Just curious as I did get some nice strat recordings with the AKG 3000B I bought years back, it was good for chorus fx. :wink:
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2006, 05:23:11 PM »
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OK, so does anyone use condensors on their amps? Just curious as I did get some nice strat recordings with the AKG 3000B I bought years back, it was good for chorus fx. :wink:


yesh, I have used several condensers on amps, the best results so far have been a single rode NT5 (basically a cheaper version of the Neumann 184 mic) which I may never afford lol. It's a small diaphram mic, and it's extremley sensitive dynamically, I actually prefer it to the Neumann version! in tone quality. A matched pair will only cost you around £200!

Tried many others, my favourite is still the trusty shure SM57, even over the beta version (they're not neccessarily better). for micing guitar amps. In fact I've used the SM57 on vocals, percussion, acoustic guitars, snare drums, and it's a great all rounder. It's awsome when you have 2 SM57s miced up to a 2x12 or 4x12, in sterio. My favourite sound is with a 1x12 cab, miced up on the front and open back inside, both with 57s. It's a HUGE tone, try it!
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2006, 05:29:00 PM »
forgot to mention, a three mic guitar mic setup works brilliantly, with 2 sm57s and one condenser mic (for ambience). From doing a lot of research on the subject I know that this is the industy standard for recording guitar amps in general terms. I plan to get the Neumann TML103 as my next mic! for room ambience, it's only £600! for the best of the best, virtually the same mic used on Bowie albums to record his voice. except, only cardiod polar pattern, but even higher spec and lower noise. for me it's the one : D
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2006, 05:33:17 PM »
SM57's are alright I guess, still if your looking cheaper an PG57 sounds just as good, in some cases better. http://froogle.google.co.uk/froogle?hl=en&q=shure+pg57&btnG=Google+Search&scoring=p

Proof: http://www.shelleygrund.com/recording/twin/pgsm.htm

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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2006, 07:19:18 PM »
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SM57's are alright I guess, still if your looking cheaper an PG57 sounds just as good, in some cases better. http://froogle.google.co.uk/froogle?hl=en&q=shure+pg57&btnG=Google+Search&scoring=p

Proof: http://www.shelleygrund.com/recording/twin/pgsm.htm


I can hear a slight presence lift (even on these speakers!) in the PG in much the same way as the AKG d65s I use. For the money I'd go with the AKG, but thats probably just me as I'm used to using them.

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My favourite sound is with a 1x12 cab, miced up on the front and open back inside, both with 57s. It's a HUGE tone, try it!


Yep I've done that as well!  :D  I heartily concur  :D
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2006, 12:22:39 AM »
When I'm micing guitar amps I'll either use an SM57 or a Sennheiser 421 (depending on the sound I'm going for) and also a Condensor mic like a Blue Baby Bottle, AGK C414, Rode NT2 etc for a bit of extra warmth and more of a 'natural' tone of the amp :)
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2006, 09:24:11 AM »
The c414 is an industry standard for micing acoustic guitar!  8)
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2006, 10:33:31 AM »
SM57 FTW!