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Kepu

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« on: September 11, 2006, 01:03:45 PM »
I'm interrested in making music of my own, and since no one near my hometown enjoys the same kind of music as I do so I decided to get a one-man band going

the thing is that I need a good drum machine which I could use to make some complex drumming parts for the songs

so what is the best drum machine for computer?
and the more realistic sounds, the better
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2006, 05:46:28 PM »
Drum Kit From Hell


used by someone who knows what they are doing, you cant distinguish between real drums or programed drums.

you need a program such as cubase to write it with (you write a midi score, which then triggers the drum sounds)

TwilightOdyssey has a lot more experience with it, since he uses it for demos

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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2006, 05:47:59 PM »
You have 3 choices:

Drumkit From Hell

BFM

Reason

Reason includes the sequencer you will need to run the drum programming part; the other 2 will require another program to run them, like Cubase, Sonar, Pro Tools, Digital Performer, etc.

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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2006, 02:20:38 PM »
Oh, haha... I didn't remember that I already got Reason
so yeah, I got it, but do you think the Reason Drum Kit 2.0 would be better than the "normal" Reason?

Also, as I'm playing kinda progressive metal, there's some great effects in Reason I could use
but my only concern is that in Reason, the time is kinda hard to keep if I use some drum fills and so on, so is there some kind of trick to keep in time or something?

I don't know about the 2 other choices but I'll check them out
thanks for the replies guys!


PS. Davey, your avatar reminds me everytime I look at it, of Alexi Laiho off Children of Bodom :P
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2006, 02:42:25 PM »
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Oh, haha... I didn't remember that I already got Reason
so yeah, I got it, but do you think the Reason Drum Kit 2.0 would be better than the "normal" Reason?

Don't know.

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Also, as I'm playing kinda progressive metal, there's some great effects in Reason I could use but my only concern is that in Reason, the time is kinda hard to keep if I use some drum fills and so on, so is there some kind of trick to keep in time or something?

Nope, just practice! You need to know note values for drum fills to work properly. If you're playing progressive metal, this shouldn't be too difficult a task. PDT_008

Seriously, the only way to really get a handle on it is to do it, and then do it again until you get it right. There is no magic drum fill fairy that will write the fills for you!

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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2006, 02:59:15 PM »
damn... I always believed in fairies

so yeah, practice practice practice
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2006, 03:06:20 PM »
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damn... I always believed in fairies

LOL ... then listen to Rhapsody! :D

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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2006, 03:29:46 PM »
naah, I'd rather larp as an elf and listen to Blind Guardian - I'm Alive
seriously, I couldn't hold my laugh when I checked out the lyrics
"I run through the dark fields of the plains. Reach level 99."
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2006, 04:30:39 PM »
The best tool for you will be Live from Ableton, as you can punch in and out loops at anytime and they will always start and play in sync.

Live can do that with any audio loop and can be remote controlled via Midi (e.g. a foot pedal) to punch in parts and or loops.
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2006, 04:39:27 PM »
ummm... I checked out Ableton's website but I didn't quite got how to use it
could explain a bit more cuz im interested, thanks :wink:
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2006, 04:47:03 PM »
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The best tool for you will be Live from Ableton, as you can punch in and out loops at anytime and they will always start and play in sync.

Live can do that with any audio loop and can be remote controlled via Midi (e.g. a foot pedal) to punch in parts and or loops.


Is Abletone Live the thing you get free with an M-Audio 18/14 (or whatever it is called)?
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2006, 05:40:11 PM »
The full version is 499 I guess, so prob not included, maybe Live Light or sth.

It's a great programm, very modern user interface and very different but easy approach.
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2006, 05:41:12 PM »
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ummm... I checked out Ableton's website but I didn't quite got how to use it
could explain a bit more cuz im interested, thanks :wink:

http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2005/02/16/ableton_intro.html
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2006, 06:14:18 PM »
Alesis SR16, it's old (and cheap now), but it's still based on real drum samples (16 bit) and dead easy to program.
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2006, 07:50:01 PM »
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PS. Davey, your avatar reminds me everytime I look at it, of Alexi Laiho off Children of Bodom :P
:?
i kinda went for the jeff hanneman wannabe lookalike LMAO