Effects Loop

[Canadian Steve]

Hi, I was wondering if I put a tone-sucking effect (such as my Digitech Whammy pedal) through the effects loop would it still suck tone?  If I got it made true bypass would it make a difference being in the loop? :crzy:

[Brow]

I personally wouldn't put a pedal such as a Whammy in an FX loop.

It'd be a far better option (in my opinion atleast) to put the Whammy in a true bypass loop infront of the amp. That way, it's only in your signal chain when you want it to be.

Craig

[Canadian Steve]

I personally wouldn't put a pedal such as a Whammy in an FX loop.

It'd be a far better option (in my opinion atleast) to put the Whammy in a true bypass loop infront of the amp. That way, it's only in your signal chain when you want it to be.

Craig

Yeah, I used to run my first (modified true bypass) Whammy like that but I don't like running effects like that + other modulation pedals before my amp's gain.

[Canadian Steve]

What I'm basically asking is:

If I take *any* tone-sucking pedal and put it in my effects loop, will it still suck tone when off?

[HTH AMPS]

What I'm basically asking is:

If I take *any* tone-sucking pedal and put it in my effects loop, will it still suck tone when off?

Put simply, yes (unless your effects loop is switchable).  One thing to consider though, many effects sound better into the front end of an amp rather than the effects loop - the Whamy is one such pedal.

 :twisted:

[FELINEGUITARS]

Certainly will if the loop is a series loop
I prefer parallel loops as a result for some things so at least some signal goes straight

There are some special boxes to convert a series loop to a parallel one

[fps_dean]

I personally wouldn't put a pedal such as a Whammy in an FX loop.

It'd be a far better option (in my opinion atleast) to put the Whammy in a true bypass loop infront of the amp. That way, it's only in your signal chain when you want it to be.

Craig

True bypass is so overrated.  Without a buffer, you are limited in cable length to about 25 feet total befre you start getting tone loss.  With a buffer to change the impedance, you can run your cables for a lot longer, ideally 50 feet.  Just don't get a pedal that does anything more drastic than that, and the only tone altering that's occuring is in your head.

True bypass + tone loss so you can be "pure" in theory, or just use a buffer.... hmmmm

[Canadian Steve]

I would only get a pedal made true bypass if it needed it.  Certain Whammy and Wah pedals definately need it.  I'm happy to live with my 3 Boss/Keeley pedals buffered bypass in my chain, as they aren't tone suckers.

[JJretroTONEGOD]

NO, get it true bypassed! I dont care what anyone else says, it makes the world of difference, (but you have to have non humming leads to actually appreciate it aka George L) another option would be to buy a Keeley bypass looper switch. This is a device that turnes any non bypass type pedal into a 100% true bypass one! and it doesn't even need batteries. www.robertkeeley.com this guy is a genius.

[Kilby]

True bypass and buffered both have their advantages and disadvantages.

Choose what suits you best, and remember that not all pedals marked true bypass are true bypass either (mostly bypassed may be a better phrase), but look at the wiring (and circuit) diagrams yourself.

BTW I have to say that personally I would not judge the looper as a work of genius, it's a the competent use of a switch, the same as dozens of other fx builders have produced for so many years.

The Pete Cornish tube buffer is much closer to a work of genius, but how may of us have such requirements.

Rob...