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Orpheo

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« on: October 09, 2006, 11:11:40 PM »
Hello,

I am a newbie on this forum, but I guess I'm as much as a fan of BKP as you guys are! I am in the market for these pickups, but i have NO idea what to choose. Perhaps you can help me out?


My rig is the following:
Les Paul Custom with maple neck
JCM 800 2203
Tubescreamer TS9

That simple :P

I want pickups so that I dont need to change guitars when I'm on stage. In one set I sometimes play rock (the Darkness), metal (zakk wylde, black sabbath), bluesy stuff. Well, you get the drift.

I need a pickup for the bridge which can deliver great pinch harmonics, is loud, screamy, punchy, but not fat or mushy, nor harsh or too trebly. With high gain it shouldn't be a mush, and when i roll my volume on the guitar back, it should clean up nice to a sparkly clean.Something in the likes of dimarzio's air norton.

For the neck I would like to have a pickup which is awesome for solo's; fatty, but not mushy on high gain, but equally good for jazz. I dont use any gain for jazz (which is obvious), and I think that a good pickup for metal solo (i.e.: fatty, not  mushy) is good for jazz, because I use no gain at all, and if its not mushy with high gain its (for me) nice and organic for jazz.

Could someone please help me out?

Sorry for the long post though, but I thought, its better to tell the WHOLE story, so people can give me more accurate advice instead of asking me a gazillion questions, and there is still no satisfying answer.

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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2006, 11:22:46 PM »
Welcome,
you are in a cool place.
Don't think I am one to help, just wanted to say hi :)

The pups I have are not what you are really describing and do'nt like to talk about what I have no experience with.
PLENTY on here with LP's etc. though that can and will help ya out :)
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2006, 11:30:57 PM »
i'd be leaning towards the crawlers myself, or maybe the rebel yells, although i have heard that there are some frenchmen using the warpig for jazz these days
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2006, 11:49:45 PM »
I've been thinking about the Mule in the neck (I use the tubescreamer as a solobooster by the way) and a rebel yell in  the bridge.

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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2006, 11:53:34 PM »
I think to cover all the styles you mention you need a good all round, versatile calibrated set.

Mules.

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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2006, 05:08:32 AM »
I'm thinking a Nailbomb or Rebel Yell set....  Nailbomb if you want more towards the heavier stuff, and the Rebel Yell if you want something brighter.

Rebel Yells sound nice in Les Pauls... I give you my word for that.

You might like the extra output of the Nailbomb better with the JCM 800.
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Orpheo

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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2006, 06:16:26 AM »
I've listened to the nailbomb clip, and it sounds just to uhm.. saturated. I prefer pickups which can do vintage stuff great, but also the heavier stuff (i.e.: wont become soggy when I turn the gain up, and deliver pinches on the spot).

Orpheo

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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2006, 06:17:14 AM »
Quote from: Twinfan
I think to cover all the styles you mention you need a good all round, versatile calibrated set.

Mules.


its definitly going to be a mule in the neck by the way. Just looking for a good bridge pickup.

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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2006, 07:40:38 AM »
I think I read somewhere that Rebel Yells have a kinda vintage yet modern tone somehow.. Never played em but sounds like what you might be after?

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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2006, 08:54:04 AM »
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I need a pickup for the bridge which can deliver great pinch harmonics, is loud, screamy, punchy, but not fat or mushy, nor harsh or too trebly. With high gain it shouldn't be a mush, and when i roll my volume on the guitar back, it should clean up nice to a sparkly clean.


That describes the Miracle Man, doesn't it?
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2006, 09:35:25 AM »
Miracle man bridge is what you might be after, however it's a bit trebly for my liking or shall i say a bit toppy when i play high notes. maybe putting cover will resolve this matter?

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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2006, 10:16:21 AM »
I would say a Rebel Yell will be too trebly for you.  Maybe a Black Dog in the bridge?

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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2006, 10:22:44 AM »
Miracle man? from what i've heard, its too harsh, too trebly... Too much zakk wylde. I play mostly stuff like the darkness, thin lizzy, aerosmith, and sometimes a 'field trip' to heavier stuff like iron maiden, black sabbath, BLS, John Sykes, or less distorted stuff (led zeppelin, or even brian setzer/stray cats).

Does that help a bit? ;)

@ twinfan: does the black dog give me pinch harmonics as easy as "see above'?

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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2006, 10:34:41 AM »
Dan Hawkins uses the Cold Sweats, but i haven't played them so it's just suggestion.

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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2006, 10:57:25 AM »
Quote from: Buddha
Dan Hawkins uses the Cold Sweats, but i haven't played them so it's just suggestion.


ah thanks! I already wanted to ask that! I friend of mine has them in his The Paul ( you know, that full walnut thing) and that sounds imo a bit too harsh, so i guess in a 'normal'les paul it might sound just right.

thanks for the tip btw. the description on the homepage sounds just right.

Why I forgot that pickup and forgot the description remains i mystery I guess :P