Author Topic: Home recording suggestions (PodXT?) (Read 11521 times)

sgmypod · « **Reply #15 on:** October 18, 2006, 10:26:28 PM »

Maudio has mic input, http://www.soundtower.com/blackbox/bb_files/bb_page.htm

heres some editing software as well...so you can use your mouse*L*

Dakine · « **Reply #16 on:** October 18, 2006, 10:32:04 PM »

VERY cool, thanks, have not seen that.
Still, have UX2 in Texas waiting with missus now so, gonna be spoilt for choice now lol.
ALso, BB mic input is not phanotm powered so is no good with my Shure or Blue 'Blue Ball' :(.

sgmypod · « **Reply #17 on:** October 18, 2006, 10:36:24 PM »

does depend on his comp for ux2 and black box can be used live

adamzap · « **Reply #18 on:** October 19, 2006, 02:55:07 AM »

im sure the tone i get from the podxt would be better than micing my Crate GX65 though right :D

ive only beeh playing for 2 years and i'm a student so my amp isnt amazing

carlaz · « **Reply #19 on:** October 19, 2006, 10:04:26 AM »

If I were gonna run Gearbox (as comes with a UX2) in combination with GarageBand, I think I'd want to upgrade from my iBook G4. 'Course, I wanna upgrade from the iBook G4 anyway .... :)

Hell Hound · « **Reply #20 on:** October 19, 2006, 10:49:53 AM »

Quote from: sgmypod

does depend on his comp for ux2 and black box can be used live

Fr the UX2 you don't depend on cpu if you only use Gearbox, cause it works through the UX2 DSP, so you're only limited by the latency (max 20ms here, but more like 10).

carlaz · « **Reply #21 on:** October 19, 2006, 12:52:27 PM »

Quote from: Hell Hound

Fr the UX2 you don't depend on cpu if you only use Gearbox, cause it works through the UX2 DSP, so you're only limited by the latency (max 20ms here, but more like 10).

Huh, my understanding has been that there is no actual on-board DSP on the UX-series; that the Toneport itself is basically just A>D/D>A device and all DSP is done in software using the host machine's CPU. Thus, all the load of processing the guitar signal with the amp models is borne by your computers CPU (which may already be under pressure from your audio-recording software). Moreover, I don't think you can "re-amp" without doing something like ensuring you record a dry signal along with any effected signal that you could then feed back out of your computer to the Toneport via anlogue cables and then back into your computer from the Toneport to re-record as another effected signal.

My understanding has also been that the Podxt is similarly limited in terms of re-amping (these are not software plug-ins for your recording software), but does (obviously) have its own chip for DSP.

Dakine · « **Reply #22 on:** October 19, 2006, 12:59:41 PM »

carlaz,
recorded my clips (most) with my mates.
He is running G4 mac and it flies.
According to Toneport forums etc. it takes up miniscule cpu useage (remembering summit like 10-15%) as opposed to many others.
Re-recording is a def. issue (from what have read) as it is 'locked' to the recording via the toneport when playing.
It needs more ram than my mum's old PC here has :( which is why ordered one in US for missus to bring with my laptop.
Hope this helps.
BTW, running with mates Mac it is VERY good and screams with no issues. It really is'nt a cpu hog mate.

carlaz · « **Reply #23 on:** October 19, 2006, 02:19:33 PM »

Well, that's good to hear -- 'cause GarageBand is certainly a resource hog on its own! :)

Honestly, I'd do well to upgrade to a faster chip and faster/bigger HD (and bigger screen :)), anyway, since it would make GB a bit happier. I have to be pretty careful about what else I'm running and where I store the GB files. Locking tracks and mixing down can be sloooow.

gingataff · « **Reply #24 on:** October 19, 2006, 03:57:11 PM »

I've got a 2Ghz duo core (intel) iMac with 1gb memory and don't really get problems with GB, mixdown is pretty quick although sometimes it says all the tracks are full when I add some drums loops from a library and then it plays silly buggers.
I still hanker for a powermac but the missus likes the clean styling of the iMac and I can't blame her, especially as I've turned our living room table into a mini home theatre/hi-fi/recording studio (complete with acoustic foam tiles on the wall!)

carlaz · « **Reply #25 on:** October 19, 2006, 04:13:09 PM »

Quote from: gingataff

I've got a 2Ghz duo core (intel) iMac with 1gb memory and don't really get problems with GB, mixdown is pretty quick although sometimes it says all the tracks are full when I add some drums loops from a library and then it plays silly buggers.

Yeah, that will handle GB much more happily than my ol' g4 iBook!

Quote from: gingataff

I still hanker for a powermac but the missus likes the clean styling of the iMac and I can't blame her, especially as I've turned our living room table into a mini home theatre/hi-fi/recording studio (complete with acoustic foam tiles on the wall!)

Eh, I'm still hunched over the dinky desk in our 2-room "house"! The guitar lurks in a corner by the sofa and the bass leans up against the refrigerator, behind the stairs. But it gets the job done, more or less :)

We're saving our shekels against the day we can move somewhere less brutally cramped, though it will probably be in South America rather than the UK! I'll have to score a new Mac before then, though .... ;)

Hell Hound · « **Reply #26 on:** October 19, 2006, 04:17:00 PM »

Well, I can't do reamping using Gearbox models. There is a DSP in the UX2, because the cpu load is very low when I use only Gearbox to record. If I do the same thing with a vst the cpu load is much higher (I tried with Guitar Rig), higher latency too.

carlaz · « **Reply #27 on:** October 19, 2006, 05:20:34 PM »

Quote from: Hell Hound

There is a DSP in the UX2, because the cpu load is very low when I use only Gearbox to record. If I do the same thing with a vst the cpu load is much higher (I tried with Guitar Rig), higher latency too.

Be that as it may, all the info I can find either from the Line6 site or forums, or third-party reviewers, seems to indicate that there is no actual DSP onboard the Toneports.

I suppose Line6 might have simply written more efficient software! :)

I'd love, though, to see a "SuperPod" that was actually aware of popular recording apps like Logic/GarageBand, Cubase, Cakewalk, Ableton, and would actually interact with them to record dry-tracks to disk but provide off-board DSP for recording/playback and mixdown. That oughta be possible without rocket science, but the amount of partnership required between Line6 and the various recording-app software houses would be insurmountable, I think!

Hell Hound · « **Reply #28 on:** October 19, 2006, 05:40:00 PM »

Weird, I hope they'll do Gearbox as a vst then, because it's not that easy to reamp with it :(

carlaz · « **Reply #29 on:** October 19, 2006, 05:46:07 PM »

Quote from: Hell Hound

Weird, I hope they'll do Gearbox as a vst then, because it's not that easy to reamp with it :(

I'm all for that. If one has to use an amp sim, one might as well reap the rewards (re-amping) as well as the punishments (being fake :))! Line6 releasing their models as VSTs and AudioUnits would rock. Of course, it might canibalize a lot of their own hardware sales ....