Author Topic: Simplest setup required for mic'ing amp for recording? (Read 13253 times)

_tom_ · « **on:** October 19, 2006, 08:04:49 PM »

I'm gonna want to buy a simple setup so I can start doing proper recordings with a real amp. Thing is I dont really know what I need, and dont have lots of money to buy anything too posh.

I was planning on getting an SM57 and getting some kinda converter so I can run it into the 1/4" input of my V-Amp 2 to use this as a preamp, or straight into the mic socket of my computer. Will this work? Or does the mic need to get power from somewhere to work properly?

I cant really afford a mixer, all the ones I've looked at are expensive for just some basic home recording..

Anyone who knows about recording, I'd appreciate if you can run down a list of all the hardware I need for a very simple setup but still be able to get some good results.

Thanks

TwilightOdyssey · « **Reply #1 on:** October 19, 2006, 08:15:42 PM »

There's even a simpler solution:

SEE LINK BELOW :roll: :oops:

Twinfan · « **Reply #2 on:** October 19, 2006, 08:18:43 PM »

Not sure what you're trying to show us there TO!

I'd be interested in an nswer to Tom's question too...

_tom_ · « **Reply #3 on:** October 19, 2006, 08:19:34 PM »

Yeah I dont get it either :lol: Maybe its a wrong link..

TwilightOdyssey · « **Reply #4 on:** October 19, 2006, 09:10:11 PM »

HA!

Sorry about that lol

:oops:

http://www.bluemic.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Products&file=index&prod_id=18

Dakine · « **Reply #5 on:** October 19, 2006, 09:12:29 PM »

_tom_, least you will need like this is some kind of interface. That is with a Shure SM. These are dynamic mics and req. 48v Phantom power.
A usb or other mic NOT needing power could be used or go straight to PC but not a dynamic or condensor.

There are many many interfaces to acheive this, both usb and firewire. A free software program is easily available and most interfaces come with one anyway.

Personally (when my laptop, which has enough ram/memory etc. gets here from Texas with missus) I am gonna use a Line6 toneport UX2 (which has 2 phantom power outlets) to record direct from amp.
However even cheaper solutions are there.
Tascam,Line6,M-Audio etc. all produce phantom power interface devices.

_tom_ · « **Reply #6 on:** October 19, 2006, 09:15:08 PM »

I found this in the UK, more than I was hoping to pay for a mic but I take it I wouldnt need to buy a mixer etc to get it into the computer?

http://www.turnkey.co.uk/web/productAction.do?dispatch=showProduct&SKU=BLU-BALL&context=WEB

Can you get stands that fit em? I bet the Blue tripod is expensive..

Dakine · « **Reply #7 on:** October 19, 2006, 09:15:14 PM »

Quote from: TwilightOdyssey

HA!

Sorry about that lol

:oops:

http://www.bluemic.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Products&file=index&prod_id=18

For what that will do (although certainly an option) for the price in UK, I think there are better options.

Dakine · « **Reply #8 on:** October 19, 2006, 09:16:13 PM »

Quote from: _tom_

I found this in the UK, more than I was hoping to pay for a mic but I take it I wouldnt need to buy a mixer etc to get it into the computer?

http://www.turnkey.co.uk/web/productAction.do?dispatch=showProduct&SKU=BLU-BALL&context=WEB

Can you get stands that fit em? I bet the Blue tripod is expensive..

Tom, I have one of those but phantom power is needed.

Yes stands are available.

_tom_ · « **Reply #9 on:** October 19, 2006, 09:16:59 PM »

Ok. I'll have a look at some of the interfaces to see what I could get to use an SM57 with then I guess..

Dakine · « **Reply #10 on:** October 19, 2006, 09:23:00 PM »

this kind of thing will be fine _tom_

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/M-Audio-Fast-Track-USB-record-guitar-vocals-on-PC_W0QQitemZ150044975104QQihZ005QQcategoryZ123445QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TACSAM-US-122-USB-AUDIO-MIDI-INTERFACE_W0QQitemZ130037166859QQihZ003QQcategoryZ123445QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

_tom_ · « **Reply #11 on:** October 19, 2006, 09:45:06 PM »

Cool, they look allright and arent too expensive on ebay.

Was looking on Dolphin Music and found this

http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/flypage/product_id/8526

Take it I'd just plug a mic into the mic in, then mic thru would go to soundcard or whatever? Guessing for £15 its not amazing though but my V-Amp 2 has lasted me about 3 years no problems..

Theres also this ART mic preamp which has more features tho it is more expensive http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ART-MicroMix-Microphone-Preamp-with-Phantom-Power_W0QQitemZ7420650203QQihZ016QQcategoryZ3278QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Twinfan · « **Reply #12 on:** October 19, 2006, 09:48:20 PM »

What about:

guitar => amp => SM-57 => M-Audio Jam Lab => PC (with Audacity)

That's £59 for the JamLab, Audacity is free and the mic/stand/cable is £85ish? Pretty cheap, but would it work???

Check out the JamLab here:

http://www.maudio.co.uk/products/en_gb/JamLab-main.html

_tom_ · « **Reply #13 on:** October 19, 2006, 09:50:07 PM »

hm, I always thought jamlab was one of those things like Rifftracker with all the amp models etc that you have to use. Could be wrong though.

Dakine · « **Reply #14 on:** October 19, 2006, 09:50:40 PM »

as long as your pc soundcard or whatever is up to it am sure would be fine. Your issue would be supplying phantom power to the mic. The interfaces I posted take all out of the equation, mic-interface-usb-recording software, as was not sure on what you have/had that you wanted to use already.