New Marshall Amps

[dave_mc]

 But i've left for greener pasteurs (probably spelt that wrong haha)

yeah, you've left for a dead scientist, but at least your milk won't give you any nasty infections

(that's louis pasteur, originator of pasteurisation for the uneducated amongst us )

also the discoverer of chirality as a molecular property, much more useful than pasteurisation.

EDIT: as for the marshalls- I'd need to try them. I haven't tried any of the reissues, but I haven't been impressed by the jcm2000's, that's for sure.

[Kilby]

also the discoverer of chirality as a molecular property, much more useful than pasteurisation.

EDIT: as for the marshalls- I'd need to try them. I haven't tried any of the reissues, but I haven't been impressed by the jcm2000's, that's for sure.

Sadly I understand the chirality reference.

From what's said Marshall amps seem to be reversing the evolutionary trend to improve. The further away from the 'borrowed' design they move the more folks dislike them. Certainly Lainey seem to be on a roll with popular amps (I remember Laneys where disliked in the 80s)

Rob...

[dave_mc]

Sadly I understand the chirality reference.

From what's said Marshall amps seem to be reversing the evolutionary trend to improve. The further away from the 'borrowed' design they move the more folks dislike them. Certainly Lainey seem to be on a roll with popular amps (I remember Laneys where disliked in the 80s)

Rob...

woot, i'm not the only saddo around here! :lol:

but yeah- marshall seem to be getting worse- i think the problem is they're trying to hedge their bets too much. They're trying to make an amp that'll appeal to the vintage guys, and an amp that appeal to the modern guys (i'm talking about the jcm2000's here), and it just doesn't really work.

Plus there are other guys who do versatile a lot better (and even then it's unlikely to please everyone).

[Kilby]

Plus there are other guys who do versatile a lot better (and even then it's unlikely to please everyone).

A camel is a horse designed by a focus group.

Needless to say nobody actually want's to ride the damn thing, but theyre stuck with it.

Marshall, the camel of the amp world ?

Rob...

[dave_mc]

^ that's about it in a nutshell, rob (just to be safe, I must point out I only mean the jcm2000's!).

:drink:

[Twinfan]

Bought Guitarist today and heard all the demos of the Vintage Modern with KT66 tubes.

I don't like it.  It either sounds too thin or too bloated  :(

[JJretroTONEGOD]

It looks promising but I doubt they'll actaully sound good. Marshall do not care about the 'sound' of thier amps anymore, all they care about is amp sales, profit and money. Jim Marshall would be nowhere without Jimi Hendrix, Joe Satriani, Jeff Beck, Slash, Zack Wylde and Frank Zappa for that matter! I'll give them a listen though because I was impressed with the DSL 20, 40 and 50 watt amps, dunno why people say the JCM2000 range is so bad, the DSL's sound very good, with the right tubes in them of coarse JJ Tesla's. If anyone gets one these new amps, post some clips.

[dave_mc]

Bought Guitarist today and heard all the demos of the Vintage Modern with KT66 tubes.

I don't like it.  It either sounds too thin or too bloated  :(

sweet, guitarist's out. I'll have to get that tomorrow. :D

It looks promising but I doubt they'll actaully sound good. Marshall do not care about the 'sound' of thier amps anymore, all they care about is amp sales, profit and money. Jim Marshall would be nowhere without Jimi Hendrix, Joe Satriani, Jeff Beck, Slash, Zack Wylde and Frank Zappa for that matter! I'll give them a listen though because I was impressed with the DSL 20, 40 and 50 watt amps, dunno why people say the JCM2000 range is so bad, the DSL's sound very good, with the right tubes in them of coarse JJ Tesla's. If anyone gets one these new amps, post some clips.

the dsl's are better than the tsl's, in my opinion, i don't think they're amazing, though- though with a tube swap and speaker swap, maybe they're alright. :drink:

[Tricalibur]

the cabs look bogus.

??

How do they look bogus (as in fake??)

Just look like a trad 4x12 t me

Marshalls and laneys are voiced very differently

To my ears laneys work well with single coils whilst I prefer the  crunchier - more toppy Marshall with a humbucker

The oldest Marshall I had was a 1965 JTM 45 with a square metal logo
The newest other than a rack power amp is a JCM800 split channel amp that I love

The new ones interest me somewhat - nice to see reverb on there
But I am more tempted by a Splawn these days

Nah, I just mean cosmeticaly(The 1960's look way better IMO). I just do understand why Marshall insists on introducing a new cab with each and every new amplifier they produce. Why dont they just keep to the 1960's?

[_tom_]

Bought Guitarist today and heard all the demos of the Vintage Modern with KT66 tubes.

I don't like it.  It either sounds too thin or too bloated  :(

Any chance you could rip those tracks off the demo disc and post em up here? Would like to hear em but dont really wanna shell out for the mag  :P

[JamesHealey]

Twinfan, i've just got that magazine also and it does sound pretty horribly thin or like u said bloated, doesnt really live up to the hype..

thank god my splawn is coming! :) muahahahah

[Sifu Ben]

It sounded like a good amp for classic rock or for blues fusion stuff, but it just doesn't have enough crunch for me.

[hunter]

Sounds quite good to me. Not as spectacular as my Shiva , 8)
but nice and useable.

I like the different characters you can get with the mid boost, as well as the two preamp volumes that work in tandem.


I reckon when they produced the DVD, they left it quite pure and didn't enhance the sound so much, which is nice style advertisement i find.

Wondering what it would sound like with a Vintage 30 Cab and how much the speakers do to the tone...

[blue]

i thought it sounded quite good too, certainly good enough to make me want to try one.  i've got a complex multi channel amp, i wonder if i might've been better with one channel and my volume knob?

[hunter]

i wonder if i might've been better with one channel and my volume knob?

Normally that's a yes, but only if the amp is complex and responsive. Might be these Marshalls do it ... wanna try one, too.