Author Topic: Nailbomb v Warpig for killer Opeth metal rhythm tone (Read 8517 times)

BloodMountain · « **on:** November 13, 2006, 06:27:31 PM »

hi fellow BKPers. im sorry about the amount of topics from me recently, but i need to know this. this follows on from the warpig output topic, which has gone asleep.
im looking for a chunky, heavy and defined metal style distorted rhythm tone that sounds a bit like Opeth's Blackwater Park album (and every album afterwards) tone. i love a fat bottom end (grow up) and a nice clean tone, but thats not that vital. any help would be appreciated. Ive heard that these two would be the best for this, but which to choose?

chrisola · « **Reply #1 on:** November 13, 2006, 06:33:23 PM »

i have both....

thing is i just have 'my sound' type of thing and arent really the best as describing tones lol

nailbomb is probably tighter and more of a 1 pickup for lead\rhythm tone type affairs

warpig good for downtuned riffing and heavy stuff

both are pretty evil sounding :)

tough one

Hell Hound · « **Reply #2 on:** November 13, 2006, 06:34:34 PM »

They use SD SH10 Full Shred, so I'd say Nailbomb...

BloodMountain · « **Reply #3 on:** November 13, 2006, 06:36:24 PM »

this is a VERY tough one... ive heard amazing things about both... i love their sound on tracks like Deliverence, the Grand Conjuration, Ghost of Perdition, the Baying of the Hounds, and the Leper Affinity
and btw its only a neck pickup im looking for, which is why its so hard, because i have heard amazing things about the Nailbomb bridge, but the neck is said to be better for leads when im looking for a rhythm tone.

MDV · « **Reply #4 on:** November 13, 2006, 07:36:07 PM »

Opeth just dont need the output of a pig. Its overkill in both positions.

Nailbomb.

Hell Hound · « **Reply #5 on:** November 13, 2006, 07:36:57 PM »

So true

BloodMountain · « **Reply #6 on:** November 13, 2006, 07:56:40 PM »

just one thing about the Nailbomb... i need a neck model, but the Nailbomb neck is said to be warm and had a good lead sound, but im not looking for a good lead sound... im looking for the complete opposite. but the Nailbomb neck has an awesome clean, ive heard some clips, but will it cut it for metal rhythm killer distortion? (the bridge certainly does, but the neck?)

Hell Hound · « **Reply #7 on:** November 13, 2006, 08:04:10 PM »

I would never play heavy rythm on a neck pickup myslef, fra too bassy, even for some vintagey Opeth tones. Use your bridge for rythms, like any other metal heads 8)

Antag · « **Reply #8 on:** November 13, 2006, 08:17:20 PM »

Quote from: BLOODMOUNTAIN

...the Nailbomb neck... but will it cut it for metal rhythm killer distortion? (the bridge certainly does, but the neck?)

IMO, no neck humbucker will do that - neck pickups simply aren't meant for that use.

Quote from: Hell Hound

I would never play heavy rythm on a neck pickup myslef, fra too bassy, even for some vintagey Opeth tones....

Me neither - & I very much doubt Opeth do either. In fact, I can't think of a single Opeth heavy riff that sounds like it was played on the neck pickup.

& regarding the original question in this thread: Nailbomb for Opeth type tones over the 'pig. JMO, YMMV etc... :)

BloodMountain · « **Reply #9 on:** November 13, 2006, 08:21:09 PM »

yeh, but im keeping the dimebucker in the razorback im getting (ive already tried it out and its great) but the neck one is not good enough... and the dimebucker is supposed to be for leads but its in the bridge... :(

BloodMountain · « **Reply #10 on:** November 13, 2006, 08:23:01 PM »

ok, thanks people... sorry for the double post here... its good advice. i will listen to the dimebucker more closely when i get my razorback, then see if i will upgrade both :twisted:

MDV · « **Reply #11 on:** November 13, 2006, 08:26:37 PM »

You WILL NOT regret replacing a dimebucker.

You wouldnt regret replacing it with a fridge magnet wrapped in 400k of polysol. Any BKP you could choose for the job will do opeth better than that flabby chainsaw.

Edit:

IMO :P

Antag · « **Reply #12 on:** November 13, 2006, 08:32:34 PM »

Quote from: BLOODMOUNTAIN

yeh, but im keeping the dimebucker in the razorback im getting (ive already tried it out and its great) but the neck one is not good enough... and the dimebucker is supposed to be for leads but its in the bridge... :(

You use the bridge humbucker for nearly all your distorted tones - lead AND rhythm. Perhaps you might use the neck for an occasional lead if you want a slightly different tone (for an example of a neck lead, dig out "Vulgar Display of Power" & listen to the solo on "Walk") - aside from that you'll use the neck for cleans (as Opeth do).

To save everyone sending you a PM: No neck pickup is going to get you Opeth's distorted tone... :)

Hell Hound · « **Reply #13 on:** November 13, 2006, 08:45:31 PM »

Am I the only one to play most of my lead on the neck pickup?
IMO the neck pickup is for clean/crunch tones (and leads emm...) and bridge for distorted rythms and leads :twisted:

MDV · « **Reply #14 on:** November 13, 2006, 08:51:51 PM »

Quote from: Hell Hound

Am I the only one to play most of my lead on the neck pickup?
IMO the neck pickup is for clean/crunch tones (and leads emm...) and bridge for distorted rythms and leads :twisted:

I use neck and bridge fairly evenly for lead.

Neck for clean and the occasional just-over-the-edge tone, yes.

Youre not alone! (sorta).

My favourite lead sound at the moment is actually my bridge ceramic pig in parrallel.