Author Topic: Guitar sub-£400 (Read 18212 times)

mattisfrommars · « **Reply #45 on:** November 19, 2006, 10:09:05 PM »

I like the PRS shape and finish, it's both really metal and really not metal.

I think i'll be getting it. Just need to amass the money. My band are starting to sell t-shirts which should be brining in some money (or a loss depending on how well we shift em :P )

dave_mc · « **Reply #46 on:** November 19, 2006, 10:26:32 PM »

^ yeah, prs are pretty good at making their guitars look pretty good for any style of music...

BloodMountain · « **Reply #47 on:** November 19, 2006, 10:39:01 PM »

yeah. Opeth use PRSs, but so does Santana, so does Paul Allender (Cradle of Filth) and Mike Lewis (lost prophets) so yeah, mixed genre users.

mattisfrommars · « **Reply #48 on:** November 19, 2006, 11:47:50 PM »

Anyone know what pickups/amps Opeth use?

Opeth, amazing sounding band. Not exactly a bunch of lookers though.

On the Lamentations DVD they play two sets, one set of slower acousticy songs (he plays a small Vox combo i think) and one "a bit heavier" and i have a vague memory that he might have been playing a fender stack of some sort...

_tom_ · « **Reply #49 on:** November 20, 2006, 10:24:49 AM »

Laney amps apparently. I think someone told me they use Duncan Full Shred pickups in their guitars.

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #50 on:** November 20, 2006, 02:15:38 PM »

They use Laney VH100's for the clean sounds and then Boss GT-8 Multi Effects Processor for distortion.

BloodMountain · « **Reply #51 on:** November 20, 2006, 08:10:56 PM »

Opeth use: Boss GT6 and GT8, Seymour Duncan Full Shred pickups, PRS custom 22 & 24 guitars (and some Gibson and Fender models), and Laney amps: Mikael Akerfeldt uses GH100L's and Peter Lindgren uses VH100R's and GH100L's. Hope this info helps anyone interested.

Joe Dorcia · « **Reply #52 on:** November 20, 2006, 08:48:43 PM »

I cannot believe the guitarists in opeth are using Multi effects units for distortion, instead of the VH100R distortion, its madness, borderline clinically ill, they should be commited. I have to say, i cant stand PRS guitars, the look nice but sound and feel very sterile to play, as with Suhrs i find. When the quality gets that high, there is no room for individual personality within a guitar.

"Its the imperfections in things that make then unique and beautiful" and that still applies to guitars i believe. Why else would people pay some much to relic instrumets?

Joe

indysmith · « **Reply #53 on:** November 20, 2006, 09:32:38 PM »

Quote from: Joe@fortyseconds

I cannot believe the guitarists in opeth are using Multi effects units for distortion, instead of the VH100R distortion, its madness, borderline clinically ill, they should be commited. I have to say, i cant stand PRS guitars, the look nice but sound and feel very sterile to play, as with Suhrs i find. When the quality gets that high, there is no room for individual personality within a guitar.

"Its the imperfections in things that make then unique and beautiful" and that still applies to guitars i believe. Why else would people pay some much to relic instrumets?

Joe

i find myself very strangely compelled to agree with yu joe. and another thing - people with PRSs don't play them. You may object, but they don't really play them. People who have paid that much money for a guitar don't dig in; they play it gently and carefully, they polish it before they put it back in its case. I feel that a guitar should not be afraid to get scarred. Of course there are a few exceptions to this rule - mainly of the filthy rich rock star variety, but Suhrs and PRSs just don't age as well as the classics.

mattisfrommars · « **Reply #54 on:** November 21, 2006, 08:41:27 AM »

Quote from: indysmith

people with PRSs don't play them. You may object, but they don't really play them. People who have paid that much money for a guitar don't dig in; they play it gently and carefully, they polish it before they put it back in its case. I feel that a guitar should not be afraid to get scarred.

Don't worry. This wont be an issue with me. I double checked all the joints and hardware were solid (i'll need to triple check them before buying) as i plan on abusing this guitar.

Battle scars make cool stories.

"This one's from when our singer did a flying rugby tackle off the PA speakers" is my personal favourite.

maliciousteve · « **Reply #55 on:** November 21, 2006, 03:41:27 PM »

Actually older PRS' (1985 - early 1990's) are very good guitars. My PRS is 16 years old and it feels better than most guitars i've played and is far from sterile and already had a few battle scars and i treat it like any other guitar.

However newer PRS' do seem to sound rather bland and feel different in comparison (after playing a new Standard 24)

Joe Dorcia · « **Reply #56 on:** November 21, 2006, 08:46:20 PM »

Quote from: maliciousteve

Actually older PRS' (1985 - early 1990's) are very good guitars. My PRS is 16 years old and it feels better than most guitars i've played and is far from sterile and already had a few battle scars and i treat it like any other guitar.

However newer PRS' do seem to sound rather bland and feel different in comparison (after playing a new Standard 24)

Good comment, why is it companies go off a bout after 10 years? lol. And I definately prefere a battle scarred guitar to a perfect polish.

Example: My main strat has about 5-6 knocks (including a nasty split in the lacquer near to the bridge but it causes not problems) which are all from my guitar come off my strap when I threw it round mee head. Also, the white pickguard has a good splattering of blood of my right index finger. NICE!

headtheball · « **Reply #57 on:** November 22, 2006, 12:43:22 AM »

For greatness in the 400 quid range, it's hard to find a solid argument against second hand. Try the shops after Christmas though...Overstocking leads to big ol' discounts, or if you can wait till May try then, when they'll be slimming stock down for the end of the financial year.

Andy RV · « **Reply #58 on:** November 22, 2006, 10:49:35 AM »

I'd get a schecter if i had a budget of 400, they come with duncans and they're really well made, I wouldn't get anything else unless I could find a nice second hand guitar.

I'd personally stay away from the PRS SE series, I've not heard many good things about them, and PRS are hardly good value for money. IMO of course.

Sifu Ben · « **Reply #59 on:** November 22, 2006, 02:36:04 PM »

^ If they come with £130 worth of Duncans is then surely the rest of the guitar is only the quality of a £250 one? Schecters are OK, but I'm not a big fan of their 6 strings. They look nice and all, but I don't like their necks, I've found the fingerboard edges to be sharp and the guitars to be microphonic. They are not really that great VFM when you compare them to similar offerings from Ibanez, Dean, Ltd,Cort,Yamaha,Washburn etc.