Author Topic: new acoustic :D (Read 8515 times)

CaffeineJunkie · « **on:** November 27, 2006, 07:43:01 PM »

gettin an acoustic guitar for my birthday in a couple weeks, jus ordered it the other day...

Click Me !!

:D only bad thing is my rents won't let me play it til my birthday :(

hunter · « **Reply #1 on:** November 27, 2006, 08:53:02 PM »

huh, not bad not bad, Martin on the headstock ... nice!

Personally I don't mind spending 2 grand on a decent guitar or amp, but for acoustics, 450 GBP seems a lot to me :)

Pretty sure it will be nice. Already decided on which BKPs you will put in?

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CaffeineJunkie · « **Reply #2 on:** November 27, 2006, 08:54:55 PM »

lol :lol: yeh painkillers obviously :D and i know what you mean bout an amp or whatever, but you can always upgrade an electric guitar or amp, you can't really upgrade an acoustic, because its sound relies heavily on the resonating chamber, and the wood it's made of, so by spending £450 on it, i know i'll get a really nice guitar

that and it's pretty :D

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #3 on:** November 27, 2006, 09:16:55 PM »

Looks quality!

Deadstar · « **Reply #4 on:** November 27, 2006, 10:31:01 PM »

Cool nice one, I'm guessing you know theres certain tonal differences between koa/mahogany and rosewood type back and sidea just in case you haven't played this yet?

Loving the satin finish love that on an acoustic :D

Got an acoustic last year for christmas aswell and got a really good one for £150 nearest thing I could find to it that sounded/played as good cost about £700 :o I don't really dig the aesthetics of mine - a bit gaudy but the sound/playability is great so thats all I'm bothered about. Yours looks great though so nice find

You can put an electric pickup in an acoustic and get a great sound (think street spirit by radiohead, tis a P-90 style one)

PS - remind us when your birthday is I'm sure you'll get a great response like the _tom_ one.

CaffeineJunkie · « **Reply #5 on:** November 27, 2006, 10:32:58 PM »

lol nah i'm not around on my bday, i've got work from the friday through to the sunday, then a party on the saturday, as my mate's bday is on the friday and mine's the saturday, then i got the ol' halfords xmas do on the sunday :D

Joe Dorcia · « **Reply #6 on:** November 29, 2006, 10:48:11 AM »

Quote from: hunter

huh, not bad not bad, Martin on the headstock ... nice!

Personally I don't mind spending 2 grand on a decent guitar or amp, but for acoustics, 450 GBP seems a lot to me :)

Pretty sure it will be nice. Already decided on which BKPs you will put in?

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OMG! this is completely backwards. The amount of work that goes into making any acoustic gutiar is far far more than any electric or amp. You have to appreciate the work that goes into an acoustic, and 450 is nothing. You can chop up a slab of wood, put some frets in accurately and some pickups and you have an electric guitar (trust me, i make both).

My two cents, don't know personnally bout these martins, i have never been a fan or martins, they are followers, stick to there trends. I prefer breedloves and McIlroy myself.

Joe

froglord · « **Reply #7 on:** November 29, 2006, 02:03:23 PM »

Quote from: Joe@fortyseconds

OMG! this is completely backwards. The amount of work that goes into making any acoustic gutiar is far far more than any electric or amp.Joe

Couldn't agree more!

My favourite acoustics are made by Brook Guitars in Devon:

http://www.brookguitars.co.uk/

Take a look at the pics on their news page - now that's art!

Elliot · « **Reply #8 on:** November 29, 2006, 02:21:58 PM »

Yup I agree - you can't tell a massive difference between a MIM Fender with BKPs and a USA one with the same, but you can tell the difference between a £150 Washburn and a £2000 Fylde (ohhhhhhh :) ) or a Martin (although perhaps not £1850 difference).

CJ - what stuff do you play on an acoustic?

Peter Antal · « **Reply #9 on:** November 29, 2006, 04:01:16 PM »

Looks like a nice guitar, congrats! :) I've tried one of these wood/composite back models before. An interesting idea for sure and definitely looks good. I'd prefer to see real koa veneer instead of the photo texture, though... ;)

Quote from: CaffeineJunkie

you can't really upgrade an acoustic, because its sound relies heavily on the resonating chamber, and the wood it's made of

In most cases changing the saddle and the nut to bone, and the bridge pins to ebony or bone will have a significant effect on the tone. In case of a good quality instrument the difference will be rather spectacular: it opens up the high end and makes the sound more detailed than with plastic parts. I couldn't believe my ears when I tried my Washburn after taking it home from the tech. 8)

Elliot · « **Reply #10 on:** November 29, 2006, 05:29:45 PM »

I had a go with one of those Martins - they seemed pretty good to me.

I might add (if anyone thinks i'm slagging them off) £150 Washburn's can be great acoustics - I have a WD42S which, although a tad quiet, is a dream for fingerstyle stuff. Great set up, nice feel. I put in a tusq nut, bridge and pins and it did lift the tone up a notch.

Kilby · « **Reply #11 on:** November 29, 2006, 05:40:01 PM »

Theres a lot of nice inexpensive acoustics around.

Often the difference between a less expensive acoustic and an expensive one only really comes into play after several years of playing. Once the guitars mature.

at home I know a few acoustic blues players and they buy a guitar for what it will sound like in ten years time.

The same as a couple of violinists and a jazz flautist I know.

For the likes of me a 200 quid Lag or Washbourne parlour guitar would be more than enough :(

As an aside, isn't it amazing that for acoustics and archtops spruce is one of the tone woods, and for solids it wouldn't even be considered.

Rob...

froglord · « **Reply #12 on:** November 29, 2006, 05:50:28 PM »

Quote from: Kilby

Often the difference between a less expensive acoustic and an expensive one only really comes into play after several years of playing. Once the guitars mature.

Hmm... Not sure I agree with this. With most guitars I find that with increasing price you get better playability, sound and overall "feel", it's just that you have the law of diminishing returns - at the really expensive end of the spectrum you're paying a lot for a small increase in quality.

Cheaper acoustics improve over time too. I had a Seagull SM6 (about £350) that just got better and better. I think anything with a solid spruce top will mature.

indysmith · « **Reply #13 on:** November 29, 2006, 05:51:18 PM »

Quote from: Kilby

As an aside, isn't it amazing that for acoustics and archtops spruce is one of the tone woods, and for solids it wouldn't even be considered.

Rob...

yeah why is that? i'd like to ehar a solid-body spruce guitar.

Joe Dorcia · « **Reply #14 on:** November 29, 2006, 05:55:44 PM »

I will have to drop in again here :)

Brook guitars i'm not too keen on, a bit harsh for my ears BUT the guys who made them were taught by master luthier Andy Manson!!!! Great guitars.

Fylde, now there is a great guitar name. I have met the guys at Fylde and had a tour of the factory, the owner is a grumpy bugga but they do make great guitars. I recently played a £4000 Whisky barrel guitar, made from old whisky barrels 9no shite sherlock) and it was ace, their mandolins a fantastic too.

The factor that makes guitars play in over the years, spruce does this over a year or two, and cedar does this in a matter of days. This is a scientiffic fact known as subliming. This is the change of a solid going directly to a gas, with no liquid stage. An acoustic guitar top sublimes, some of the cellulose structure 'evaporates' and makes the top lighter and more flexible, making a better sound.

So there you have it...

Joe