The return of JACK,THE RIPPER?

[jt]

:D Most serial killers start with prostitutes. There easy & are allways vulnerable because they agree to get into Cars/Carriages etc. One wonders how long it`ll be before the killer moves onto Non-Prostitutes, & that`s the worry at the moment. With DNA evidence becoming more previlant & easier to find i dont think the killer will get away with this for long.

The govenment tried a little experiment in Bournmouth [ i think it was ] Were they gave out free heroin to anybody who was willing to go through therapy etc. Crime levels dropped by a wopping 40% overnight & all of the addicts were able to get real normal jobs. The amount of money the local health authority was spending  on addicts, amputation of dead limbs etc was truley frightning - its all due to the cr@p that the heroin is "cut" with- now non of the addicts need any real medical care thats any different from the rest of us.

I think this should now be "Run Out" over the entire country. It`ll be far far cheaper than how much we all have to pay now, & it`ll be better for our society. We can find out "Why" people are doing these drugs & then get them off of them.

 :D  8)

[dave_mc]

Jack the Ripper was called Ripper becuase he "ripped" his victims.I think this guy strangles them but as far as I am aware, leaves the bodies intact but naked.As Jonathan  says, the victims are human beings and there seems to be a slight shift in public opinion from the "they are only prostitutes so don't worry" attitude to seeing them as someone's daughter and/or sister. Those couple of days waiting for the two most recent victims to be identified must have been torture for the women's families. Given that we cannot move in this country for security cameras hopefully they will be useful in helping the police to trace this person.

true. i think the whole "they're prostitutes so who cares" mentality is retarded.

:D Most serial killers start with prostitutes. There easy & are allways vulnerable because they agree to get into Cars/Carriages etc. One wonders how long it`ll be before the killer moves onto Non-Prostitutes, & that`s the worry at the moment. With DNA evidence becoming more previlant & easier to find i dont think the killer will get away with this for long.

The govenment tried a little experiment in Bournmouth [ i think it was ] Were they gave out free heroin to anybody who was willing to go through therapy etc. Crime levels dropped by a wopping 40% overnight & all of the addicts were able to get real normal jobs. The amount of money the local health authority was spending  on addicts, amputation of dead limbs etc was truley frightning - its all due to the cr@p that the heroin is "cut" with- now non of the addicts need any real medical care thats any different from the rest of us.

I think this should now be "Run Out" over the entire country. It`ll be far far cheaper than how much we all have to pay now, & it`ll be better for our society. We can find out "Why" people are doing these drugs & then get them off of them.

 :D  8)

yeah. "all drugs are bad so they should all be outlawed" is a simplistic view at best. I know the guys who think like this mean well, but it doesn't always work. if you're hooked on heroin, you'll try to find a way to get it whether it's legal or not (EDIT: not to mention a sizeable proportion of the population who think that once something is illegal, it's "cool"!). And as you say, some of the cr@p they beef up these drugs up with to improve profits are horrendous, stuff like warfarin (basically rat poison) and stuff. Disgusting what some people are willing to do to get more money.

[chrisola]

could be another 'Yorkshire Ripper' type situation...

the problem with this case is people coming forward.... if you paid for a prostitute, then she was murdered, would you REALLY want to come forward?? It could potentially destroy your life, depending on what happens with the case.

Maybe thats why this lowlife has picked his\her victims like this..

[dave_mc]

^ that's a good point. not to mention will get you involved in a very high profile murder case. the cops are kind of wise to anyone who comes forward/finds the body as that's the oldest trick in the book, too, they almost assume that person is guilty.

[Elliot]

and its not just the cops - the media seem to be on this one like flies to shite - so we know everything the minute it happens.  No one would come forward for fear of being caught on BBC or ITV etc.  That and the murder is sitting back thinking, 'I know where the cops are, i'll stay away'.  Some things should be out of the media spotlight, at least for a while.

[indysmith]

And as you say, some of the cr@p they beef up these drugs up with to improve profits are horrendous, stuff like warfarin (basically rat poison) and stuff. Disgusting what some people are willing to do to get more money.

I never understood this - why use rat poison? isn't that just killing off your market? why not just something non-toxic that looks like ur drug? better still, don't

[dave_mc]

I never understood this - why use rat poison? isn't that just killing off your market? why not just something non-toxic that looks like ur drug? better still, don't

i have no idea, I'm guessing it's cheaper, and binds well to the rest of the drug... and there isn't enough in it to do you any harm. warfarin is a treatment for heart problems (low blood pressure? high blood pressure? fast heartbeat? some of those, i think), in lower doses.

also, I just read on AOL that the cops are refusing to confirm or deny that a senior police officer was a client of some of the prostitutes...

[jt]

:D Police have just arrested a 37yr old man in Felixstow as part of the investigation into the murders.

Read it here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/

 :D  8)

[crispsandwich]

This is where I hate members of the public who feel they 'owe it to the public' to name and shame these people to the British media.

The man arrested yesterday was named by people living in the area. His address and place of work were named too. He hasn't even been charged for it. Now, if he did it, then may he burn in Hell for it. But if he didn't, and he was just someone who used prostitutes (a crime, but nothing like MURDER) then he'll be released without charge, but his life will be RUINED. He'll have to move. All the country will know his face. He'll live a life of misery. All because of our media system.

They've now arrested someone else. I think it's unlikely that two people committed these murders. So this might mean that one of them is innocent. Yet again, this individual has been named before being charged.

If these people actually commited the crime, then they should hang as far as I'm concerned. But if they didn't do it, their lives have been ruined.

We live in a f****d up country.

EDIT: It now appears he isn't being named yet (the second person). I could swear I saw a name when I first saw it on the news this morning but maybe I was wrong. Maybe they've been asked not to name him.

[dave_mc]

^ agreed, apart from hanging (i don't believe in capital punishment).

[38thBeatle]

Agreed also Mr Sandwich however if the guy is innocent I suspect the very media that will hound him now will be clamouring to pay him huge wads for his story. To paraphrase what has been said, albeit about one paper in another thread, papers don't let thinking get in the way of a story. I wouldn't single out the D*ily M*il, -they are all self righteous hypocritical so called guardians of the nations morals.I used to read most of the common papers ( for work) and rarely read any. Buried in thee somewhere are some great journos but the public appetite for nonentity "celebs" has reduced the papers to what they are now. I had an acquaintance, many years ago, vilified by a paper  (D*ily M*rror)with a story that was at best inaccurate but as he had died, there was no libel. Hopefully, id rthese men are guilty they will get what is coming to them. I have mixed feelings about capital punishment but being decended from a hangman, I would gladly "pull the lever" on child murderers.

[Fubar]

I would gladly "pull the lever" on child murderers.

As a parent I certainly agree with the sentiment but how would you feel if they were then found innocent? Which hangman are you decended from btw? I read Pierrepoints autobiography a while back, was pretty interesting!

[38thBeatle]

Yeah, getting the wrong person is why I have mixed feelings. My great great great Grandfather was James Berry.Famous for the botched hanging of John (Babbacombe) Lee and also a book setting out the recommended "drop".

[Fubar]

My great great great Grandfather was James Berry.Famous for the botched hanging of John (Babbacombe) Lee and also a book setting out the recommended "drop".

Is that the one where the guy's head came off? I believe he's mentioned in the Pierrepoint book but my memory is shot to buggery so can't remember what it said!  :lol:

[38thBeatle]

No, it was the one where John Lee, convicted of a murder but protesting his inncocence, had his sentence commuted to life after there had been malfunctions during the execution.Three times there was a mechanical failure and it was deemed that it was inhuman to put him through it. I can't remember  how it ended other than, I think, Lee was eventually released and went to live in the USA and died in old age. Fairport Convention made an album based around the story I think. From memory, the evidence was pretty shaky and Lee mainained he had nothing to do with the murder throughout his life-can't be sure about the last bit though. The head story is tue-it happened a few times when the drop was too much and I think that that is why Berry produced the book. I have a biuography of him somewhere in the house- required reading in my family.