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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2006, 06:12:13 PM »
On the Maple Boards issue, I just don't get it. Cosmetically I prefer a darker board, and playing wise and tonally. But for some reason lately you guys are like OMFG KEWL!!!!!!!! everytime you see a piece of maple, regardless of any of the guitars other features (and someone also mentioned one of my other peeves, the single control  :evil: )
 As for Nevermore, I find their music intensely boring, and Loomis is a skilled yet uninspiring player. There is much more to lead playing than playing a load of fast arpeggios with the same rhythm figure.
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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2006, 06:18:35 PM »
Loomis isn't always like that. His solo to Tomorrow Turned Into Yesterday is one of the best solos i've ever heard, it sends chills down my spine, like the solo to Pink Floyds Comfortably Numb. He can be a very tasteful player. But I happen to love Nevermore.

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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2006, 06:26:36 PM »
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On the Maple Boards issue, I just don't get it. Cosmetically I prefer a darker board, and playing wise and tonally. But for some reason lately you guys are like OMFG KEWL!!!!!!!! everytime you see a piece of maple, regardless of any of the guitars other features (and someone also mentioned one of my other peeves, the single control  :evil: )
 As for Nevermore, I find their music intensely boring, and Loomis is a skilled yet uninspiring player. There is much more to lead playing than playing a load of fast arpeggios with the same rhythm figure.


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i love maple.. there arent enough maple boarded guitars today in production (fenders aside), so maple = total win!!!

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single volume = the ONLY and i mean ONLY way to go for metal. not only you dont need the tone control, it dulls the tone somewhat

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loomis = god .. only word to describe someone that landed an audition for megadeth at 16, and got turned down, cos it would make dave look bad, getting his ass handed over to him by a teenager.. so he got marty friedman instead LOL

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« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2006, 06:36:25 PM »
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single volume = the ONLY and i mean ONLY way to go for metal. not only you dont need the tone control, it dulls the tone somewhat

Um, NO!!!!!!!! We had this conversation on the tech forum and the general concensus was that any difference is probably less than your ear can detect. ANYWAY there is a whole world of metal that isn't just about mid cut high gain bridge pickup palm muted chugging, where a tone control can be pretty useful for your lead playing, and most players over 22 are likely to need one at some point. My biggest peeve with the one tone control issue, is that if you don't want a tone control then it's the work of about 30 seconds to disconnect it and it won't affect the resale value of your guitar, but it requires a pillar drill, the purchase of £10-£15 worth of parts, risk to your finish, and dramatic depreciation of your guitar's value to fit one.  :x
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« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2006, 06:41:59 PM »
I dont like the headstock, but other than that thats a really nice guitar. I love the choice of scale.

And loomis is a phenomenal player, I'll have you know! Hes quite capable of putting out malmsteen and becker typw shred, but as davey says, plays tastefully a lot of the time. Hes a well practiced player thats got bags of technique that never sounds like hes just running through scales or exercises (*cough*petrucci*cough*).

I keep hearing he's doing a solo album....anyone heard anything on that?

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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2006, 07:06:42 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCZKYoaOBBc

I don't think i'll ever be able to play that.
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« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2006, 07:41:34 PM »
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single volume = the ONLY and i mean ONLY way to go for metal. not only you dont need the tone control, it dulls the tone somewhat

Um, NO!!!!!!!! We had this conversation on the tech forum and the general concensus was that any difference is probably less than your ear can detect. ANYWAY there is a whole world of metal that isn't just about mid cut high gain bridge pickup palm muted chugging, where a tone control can be pretty useful for your lead playing, and most players over 22 are likely to need one at some point. My biggest peeve with the one tone control issue, is that if you don't want a tone control then it's the work of about 30 seconds to disconnect it and it won't affect the resale value of your guitar, but it requires a pillar drill, the purchase of £10-£15 worth of parts, risk to your finish, and dramatic depreciation of your guitar's value to fit one.  :x


tech forum or no, there is an audible diference. i dont need it, i dont want it, it looks ugly, when there's more knobs on the guitar than you need and i am glad they arent puting one up on there.

besides, dont try to insult me with the stupid mid cut high gain comments.
i never needed the tone control, and i dont see me needing/wanting one in the near future. so i am very glad that there are guitars (production guitars) without the stupid tone control

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« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2006, 07:42:34 PM »
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I keep hearing he's doing a solo album....anyone heard anything on that?

indeed .. though it's been talked about for well over a year now.

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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2006, 08:09:32 PM »
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besides, dont try to insult me with the stupid mid cut high gain comments.

Don't make stupid absolute statements then  :roll: If one control is the only way to go then why do so many of the biggest names in metal guitar have tone controls?
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And loomis is a phenomenal player, I'll have you know! Hes quite capable of putting out malmsteen and becker typw shred, but as davey says, plays tastefully a lot of the time. Hes a well practiced player thats got bags of technique that never sounds like hes just running through scales or exercises (*cough*petrucci*cough*).

A) I said he was skillfull, I just think his soloing is pretty uninspiring. Indeed, for me it's Loomis who sounds like he's stringing together a load of exercises.
B) Your comments about Petrucci are about 15 miles of the mark. Indeed, he is a player who makes great use of varied technique, syncopations and outside notes, and can play with a ton of feel. Yes, his EXTREMELY high speed sections sound somewhat scalar, but then most ultra high speed sections do as there's a limit to how much movement you can achieve at those speeds.
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« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2006, 08:16:51 PM »
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besides, dont try to insult me with the stupid mid cut high gain comments.

Don't make stupid absolute statements then  :roll: If one control is the only way to go then why do so many of the biggest names in metal guitar have tone controls?


i can name a pretty big bunch that dont use a tone control too. also, if they have a knob on the guitar, doesnt mean they actualy use it. or have it connected for that matter.

and then why have it on the guitar in the first place, if you dont have it conected. but not everyone can afford a custom guitar, or has a sig series.



so... whatever. i still think the tone control is obsolete, no matter what anybody else thinks. and it does dull the high frequencies a bit.

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« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2006, 08:17:18 PM »
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besides, dont try to insult me with the stupid mid cut high gain comments.

Don't make stupid absolute statements then  :roll: If one control is the only way to go then why do so many of the biggest names in metal guitar have tone controls?
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And loomis is a phenomenal player, I'll have you know! Hes quite capable of putting out malmsteen and becker typw shred, but as davey says, plays tastefully a lot of the time. Hes a well practiced player thats got bags of technique that never sounds like hes just running through scales or exercises (*cough*petrucci*cough*).

A) I said he was skillfull, I just think his soloing is pretty uninspiring. Indeed, for me it's Loomis who sounds like he's stringing together a load of exercises.
B) Your comments about Petrucci are about 15 miles of the mark. Indeed, he is a player who makes great use of varied technique, syncopations and outside notes, and can play with a ton of feel. Yes, his EXTREMELY high speed sections sound somewhat scalar, but then most ultra high speed sections do as there's a limit to how much movement you can achieve at those speeds.


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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2006, 08:54:02 PM »
Was that just an extremely oblique comment or do we know each other Bird?
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« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2006, 09:00:23 PM »
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Was that just an extremely oblique comment or do we know each other Bird?


Not so much "oblique"  closer to  sarcasm  :wink:
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« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2006, 09:01:02 PM »
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I don't think i'll ever be able to play that.


that was awesome. :drink:

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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2006, 09:01:53 PM »
Aha, I do know your Sensei it seems  8)
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