Are there still really cr@p guitars on the market?

[Dakine]

Hooraa for Mrs.38th, stick it to em :)

See Blair, we STILL fight back  :twisted:

BTW Steve, wish could have tried a bloody Flat Head, serves me right for liking very hard to find cr@p huh. Agree else though.

[dave_mc]

Dave, course they milk it, they're in it to make money. Inherant faults? Hmm, guitars are'nt THAT technological are they (for most part)?

As for mom&pop fussing on ya :) They prob. like ya ;)

BTW, prefer THAT service than going into a damn Guitar Center and all thats there are guitars that Crazy Joe has abused every day after school for sale. If I am spending money I want service and somthing NEW (if indeed it is meant to be new) not summit a 15yo has been abusing ad hock! HATE GC for guitars. Love em for price matching though. DOH, there goes me mom&pop eulogy :(

inherent faults = locking trems with tin foil knife edges. To name the one that sprung to mind when I wrote that, lol. Poor quality electronics aren't great either, when you consider the price difference between good and cr@p (maybe 50p? less?). And many companies (not just guitar) frequently put in cr@p components to try to entice you into buying the higher up models.

Heh, crazy joe again.

I see plenty of old guitars in smaller shops too, though, that have been played a lot.

For anything under £1200, the Internet is where to buy good as far as I can see.

This includes guitars - You can save a $%&#load and then spend the money you save on a good fret dressing and set up. Just make sure you try the guitar in a local shop first - Risky buying can be dangerous...

Most guitar shops are pretty chilled out nowadays - Metalheads at the counter who don't wanna bother you but if asked they're a tremendous help. Much superior to the parent flocking you get in Soundcontrol etc.

Decided that Soundcontrol is the worst place on the planet btw.

PS: What does MIK stand for? One of the things I need to learn :p

I wouldn't buy a MIK (or chinese/indonesian/worse) guitar on the internet, that's for sure. They'd probably put the neck on backwards.

and good work, 38th/mrs 38th. That'll show them. I can't work out who those blasted supermarkets are, though, damn your asterisking!

;)

:lol:

[noodleplugerine]

ya wanna use F word and spend $1,000 on a guitar yet do not know what MIK is?

Good luck bud.

Made in Korea.

So not knowing specialist internet abreviations is equal to being a bad guitarist with no money.

I see.

Got no excuse for the language, and I retract the £1200 - No idea why I wrote such a huge figure.

Basically I'm talking about Korean guitars, since they're all built the same whether you buy it set up from a guitar shop or sent over and set it up yourself makes little difference right?

[dave_mc]

^ exactly.

rofl lol 133t pwnt

[noodleplugerine]

^ exactly.

rofl lol 133t pwnt

zomgwtf q_q

[Dakine]

ya wanna use F word and spend $1,000 on a guitar yet do not know what MIK is?

Good luck bud.

Made in Korea.

So not knowing specialist internet abreviations is equal to being a bad guitarist with no money.

I see.

Got no excuse for the language, and I retract the £1200 - No idea why I wrote such a huge figure.

Basically I'm talking about Korean guitars, since they're all built the same whether you buy it set up from a guitar shop or sent over and set it up yourself makes little difference right?

Not at all. You have retracted. Being newest member and going on like you have makes a $"%$"£&.

And, MIK is not a specialist internet phrase me thinks.

What I am getting at (and I try to help, ask many here) is that research is your friend. An older Jackson or Charvel (for instance) may be a good bet for you. The interent (amongst other things) can be a very powerful tool. And you have the advantage of a US connection which many would envy. Just be patient and figure out what ya want and need, then go for it. Don't get hung up on woods, materials. It's the basics that are not easy to change. Body routing, trem/no trem etc. I have had a cpl. of neck thrus and although very nice, they can have their own specific issues. Research, question, try and try (not always poss.) and then use ya choices (maybe in your case US connection).

[Dakine]

BTW, cannot speak for other brands but have (well just sold) a Schecter and have noodled on many others, MIK checked in US which are Excellent instruments. In fact ONLY reason selling my Schecter was due to the Flat Head (same basic guitar in design).
Very difficult to make sweeping statements with instruments that are not plastic. Only real way is to spend some time with em, then decide cr@p or not :)

[dave_mc]

^ :drink:

just remember, not everything written on the net is true, lol.

[Dakine]

^
ummm exactly, So why do so many here qoute what they have read and not tried and then attempt to pass it off as ver batum? Weird huh LOL

(not u btw Dave)

[noodleplugerine]

I DIDN'T DO NUTHIN  :roll:

[dave_mc]

^ heh, I'm sure I've done it on occasion too, lol.

But yeah, it can get annoying. this forum is one of the better ones for that, actually. it doesn't happen too much here.

[Dakine]

I DIDN'T DO NUTHIN  :roll:

am just ranting in general, NOT pointed at you :)

You, should be in a GREAT buying position (I should know I have a House in the US and live there too) so should be able to obtain a great guitar for your money. Just research and bide ya time.

Check the better US online dealers, for instance www.chrisguitars.com there are lotsa great deals out there if ya have US connections.

[noodleplugerine]

Well, I have tried the ESPs, since they were the first to catch my eyes at the beginning of the endeavour, but it seems that either:

1. The ESP I played had Magic powers,
2. The ESPs which everyone else played were shockingly awful, or
3. I'm just totally wrong.

Such a damn shame I'm a sceptic :(

[nfe]

Decided that Soundcontrol is the worst place on the planet btw.

Why?

[noodleplugerine]

Well, at least the one in London.

The only Ibanez they have are 2 GRGs when they used to have almost every RG. They got rid of all their Warwick basses,

They're the only Schecter dealer in the UK yet they covered a WHOLE FREAKING WALL in Omen 6s in different colours. Infact, the best Schecter they have is a Diamond series with Duncan Designed pickups for £300.

The Gibson section has halved (not that I care) they lost the PRS private stock!!!

The Ibanez section has been killed off, and they've decided to make it the "bass" section, (in other words they only have enough basses to fill a section designed for 1 manufacturer).

The Fender section's thriving, as is the PRS section, but other than that the shop's in shambles.

Best thing is the Peavey Cabs they sell, yet they sell no Peavey Heads.. :D

At least they have some Mesas in stock now, but I can't imagine them shifting that many with those prices being beaten 3 mins down the road in Denmark Street, (rockers for example).

Their sound tech stuff I have no idea about, but hell, I'm a guitarist, and this is a guitar based forum, so screw that :p


Other than that, the whole atmosphere of the place is toxic - If you're a college student with a nasty coat, you'll get ignored, but if you're a 12 year old with a parent wearing Gucci you get flocked by the whole staff.

I know that's the same in every guitar shop, but it's magnified in Sound control.